Silk's origin
James Wynn · 12 Oct 2011, 20:23
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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:23:42 -0500 Subject: (urth) Silk's origin In-Reply-To: <4E95F100.6060004 at verizon.net> References: <CAM3O41KTbA6w=DGP0=PKOWeYCJqCnnzQHpMmR2DQn=qn9H8dRA at mail.gmail.com><4E9373A2.1050707 at gmail.com><4E939403.8080007 at verizon.net><4E93B5F8.3020306 at gmail.com><4E94487E.10501 at verizon.net><D68FAB30D7F440BB9095BD357CAB55A4@Rover><4E945874.9090301 at gmail.com><4E945C2F.7080905 at verizon.net> <4E948295.5010500 at gmail.com><571E68DA15DD499F97AF81E00288D79F@Rover> <4E95A772.50808 at verizon.net> <606577368B424519B0072050D478DF88@Rover> <4E95B2F8.7060009 at verizon.net> <4E95EEF4.9040707 at gmail.com> <4E95F100.6060004 at verizon.net> Message-ID: <4E95F74E.8030407 at gmail.com> >>> On 10/12/2011 10:32 AM, David Stockhoff wrote: >>> >>> Let's put this to James. James, does an engineered-genes-insertion >>> link between Typhon and Silk work for your theory? After all, with >>> some wiggle room it makes them brothers, or closer than brothers. >>> And yet they will be as different as Silk and Mucor. >> >> [...] >> But even that is too many degrees of separation for me. For example, >> why could only Silk be used as a donor to repatch Pas after his >> resurrection, and why did it require going all the way to the >> Mainframe? If it is only that he was carrying part of the god in his >> head, then he only needed to stand in front of a Sacred Window. And I >> still want him to be a son of Typhon somehow to have a hope of >> explaining the two parents Silk meets on the Aureate Path. >> > That's what I mean. In what sense must Silk be a son of Typhon---given > the "son not son" pattern of the Romans you have pointed to: legal? > No. Filial? No. Why not genetic? Well, just sharing selected genes would not really make Silk a "son of Typhon". That would be true of any cousin of Typhon or any chimpanzee (as Gerry pointed out). Now, yeah, it would work perfectly for "the son not of my body" to mean that Silk is a clone of the son of Typhon and that Tussah is a clone of Typhon. I can't begin to relate all the ways that works. If that were true, then I'd happily wave away all the references to Silk AS Typhon/Pas. But if Chenille is the image of Tussah and Tussah is the clone of Typhon, doesn't it seem reasonable that Silk and Chenille would look enough alike for Horn to think they should be brother and sister? Now, suppose this imagined original "Son of Typhon" were himself not really a genetic son. Suppose he was implanted in the original Kypris just as Silk was? That would make it unnecessary for Silk to look anything like Typhon. But... 1) Why bother giving Silk the similarities to Typhon at all? Why the relatively unusual blonde hair and such? 2) Why, when asked about Silk's "ancestry" did Wolfe say "he was the son of the Calde and his mistress"? His ancestry would move a step back beyond Typhon. J.
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