Return to the Whorl

larry miller · 12 Oct 2011, 23:20 · from 2011-October.txt.gz

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From: biglar1984 at gmail.com (larry miller)
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 19:20:24 -0400
Subject: (urth) Return to the Whorl
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Is the deal explicetly stated in the text?  I totally missed that.
Earlier in the book Severian talks about Malrubius to Horn.  Severian
has to know this is the same man visiting him later because Horn asks
him about his book.  Why would  he think Horn is Malrubius now?  Did
you read the interview where Wolfe says that Horn takes a part in the
Hierodules plans but not a  "Leading"  part? That makes sense if Horn
leads the returning Human stock who will one day become the
Hierogrammates.

On 10/12/11, Sergei SOLOVIEV <soloviev at irit.fr> wrote:
> My personal opinion is that 1) It is related to the idea
> that for the final resurrection and Last Judgement the soul must be reunited
> with the body. For this purpose, by the way, the body must be buried and not
> burned, for example. I cannot remember, what is explicitly told on this
> in the Bible,
> but it is a very strong tradition in Catholic Church and Ortodox
> Christianity.
> GW gives it a sort of a twist - meaning that Scylla-Cilinia on the Long Sun
> Whorl, and even its "weak copy" in Oreb can be seen as having a "chunk
> of its
> main soul" and it must be reunited with its body. 2) The deal is that the
> Scylla on the red Sun Whorl teaches Horn how to find/call Seawrack
> using its language and in exchange he brings a piece of soul of Cilinia
> who was connected with Scylla. 3) Because he thinks that Silk-Horn
> visiting the Red Sun Whorl as a sort of a ghost (in the Book of the Short
> Sun) is Malrubius. 4) I think that it has to return to the Urth (Ushas)
> to repopulate it after the flood.
>
> Best
>
> Sergei Soloviev
>
> larry miller wrote:
>>  finished up RttW and I am still confused about a number of things.
>> 1) Why exactly does Scylla want to return to her body buried in
>> Nessus?  2) What was the deal she and Horn made with the Megatherian
>> Scylla?  3) Why does Severian say the bird (that has to be Oreb)
>> belong to Master Malrubius?  4) Where does the Whorl going when its
>> relaunched?
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