Urth - Earth links

larry miller · 14 Oct 2011, 14:46 · from 2011-October.txt.gz

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From: biglar1984 at gmail.com (larry miller)
Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 10:46:26 -0400
Subject: (urth) Urth - Earth links
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I quite like your idea of a spiral string of universes.  Surely there
exists shortcuts or else Severians manuscripts would never of ended up
in Wolfes hands!

On 10/14/11, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Sergei Soloviev: If you got interested in the links between Urth and our
>> world - please,
>>answer this: how the Chrasmological writings were composed?
>>Yes, we know "within the book" that Typhon/Pas ordered some scholars to
>>do it.  But I mean other question - what message wants GW to pass to us,
>>regarding their content?
>
> I think this piggybacks to themes addressed with larry miller in the "Faterh
> Inire" thread.
>
> Wolfe has said he wrote BotNS with the idea of a series of universes created
> by a sequence
> of Big Bang/Grand Gnabs (sadly, the recent Nobel prize in Physics went to
> guys who disproved
> this model).
>
> My own mental model of this string of universes is in an ascending spiral
> (thus the Hiero's
> preference for that shape). Thus it takes a long "time" to travel linearly
> from one universe
> to the next. But there exists the possibility of short cuts between a
> universe and the ones
> just above or below on the spiral.  Father Inire, Jonas and Dr. Talos and
> others have access
> to one of these short cuts and thus access to Earth legends and the means to
> bring them to
> Urth.
>
> I think Wolfe's purpose to this literary device is to offer an explanation
> for the origin of
> our own myths. Presumably Wolfe believes we live in a Judeo-Christian
> universe, created and
> eternally governed by that God. So how could He have created such
> competitors and monsters such
> as Dionysus and Typhon and vampires etc.
>
> If our myths and legends can leak into Severian's universe then perhaps the
> gods and horrors of
> a gnostic universe can leak into ours. It is one way to justify Wolfe's
> stated belief that pagan
> gods are real. 		 	   		
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