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Jeff Wilson · 21 Oct 2011, 23:27 · from 2011-October.txt.gz

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From: jwilson at clueland.com (Jeff Wilson)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:27:07 -0500
Subject: (urth) Jordan interview
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On Fri, October 21, 2011 16:27, Andrew Mason wrote:
> I have just been looking at the Jordan interview with GW, which has
> been mentioned here a few times lately, and I noticed a couple of
> things.
>
> First, I can't find any reference to God's promise to Noah - the claim
> that this is a long past universe is one that Wolfe makes unprompted,
> when asked if it is this universe or a future one. However, he adds
> 'Something that we are repeating rather than something that we are',
> which to me seems to count against the idea that that universe is
> radically different in nature from the one we are in.

It would be interesting to see if there are any references to rainbows on
Urth.

> The other thing is the 'Christ figure' remark, which is often quoted
> in a way that's not quite right. Here's what Wolfe says: 'In so far as
> there is a Christ figure it is Severian. That doesn't mean he has to
> be identified with Christ. He is in a position similar to that of
> Christ. But really it is a different position because Christ really is
> both God and man. Severian is not. Severian is a Christian rather than
> a Christ.'

This at least is consistent with the Long Sun and Short Sun books, where
Christianity seems to be am emergent phenomenon.


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Jeff Wilson - < jwilson at clueland.com >
A&M Texarkana Computational Intelligence Lab
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