Father Inire - Hethor

Jeff Wilson · 21 Oct 2011, 23:42 · from 2011-October.txt.gz

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From: jwilson at clueland.com (Jeff Wilson)
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 18:42:01 -0500
Subject: (urth) Father Inire - Hethor
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On Fri, October 21, 2011 15:58, Andrew Mason wrote:
> Jeff Wilson wrote:
>
>>
>>> Why can he see Severian and Agia while Marie
>>> cannot?
>>
>> How can we tell he sees Severian and Agia?
>
> Actually, this is rather less clear than I imagined, but I still think
> he can. Isangoma says 'The tokoloshe, Preceptress, the tokoloshe
> come'. Marie says 'I think he's lost his mind,' and Robert replies 'He
> has eyes, Marie, and you don't.' After this Robert looks at Severian
> and Agia, and says 'As Isangoma says, the tokoloshe are here.'  So he,
> at least, clearly thinks Isangoma can see them.

But Isangoma equally clearly thinks Marie can't see them or sense them
another way, or he wouldn't need to annonuce their arrival. I think he
feels their vibrations or notices their shadows and infers that beings
unseen by anyone but Robert have arrived, obviating his need to look
toward Sev and Agia and this leaving the issue of his facial resemblance
to anyone unresolved.

-- 
Jeff Wilson - < jwilson at clueland.com >
A&M Texarkana Computational Intelligence Lab
< http://www.tamut.edu/cil >

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