Catherine

larry miller · 25 Oct 2011, 03:59 · from 2011-October.txt.gz

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From: biglar1984 at gmail.com (larry miller)
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 23:59:11 -0400
Subject: (urth) Catherine
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Sorry I should have worded my post a little better.  In every instance
I use the word Pelerines I should have used Mannea. Therefore maybe
Mannea has a connection with the Atrium of Time.
                                                   My guess as to
helped her escape to the Atrium-the Cumaen, who surely knew of
Severians destiny and sought to ensure his birth by hiding Catherine
in the Atrium.
                                                   What secret are you
referring to?
                                      It is not a fact that Catherine
is the real St Katherine.  She just portrays her in the ceremonies.

                       As to why Severian doesnt visit her after
becoming Auturch?  Maybe he does and just doesnt write about it.  Or
if she is indeed the woman dug up by Vodalus shes already dead by this
point.

On 10/24/11, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote:
> On 10/24/2011 9:50 PM, larry miller wrote:
>> That makes perfect sense to me.  Doesnt Sev search for the Atrium from
>> above in a flyer when Auturch? This fits nicely with The Last House
>> that can only be seen and approached from certain angles. And it was
>> the Pelerines (that Catherine belonged to) that sent Sev to Ash with
>> very specific directions to find the Last House.  Perhaps the
>> Pelerines have some connection with the Temporal Obfuscation
>> technology adherrant to these structures?  Perhaps even Mannea herself
>> once inhabited the Atrium and thus knows how said structures are to be
>> found.
>
>
> Why would the Pelerines have anything to do with the Atrium of Time?
>
> Catherine had escaped from them---not to them---so why would she go
> there afterward?
>
> What good is a secret that neither we nor the narrator can guess?
>
> Who would have allowed Catherine to escape there when all the signs
> point to her death by beheading?
>
> Severian knows the Atrium---why does he run there to marry Valeria
> without once stopping by to see his mother?
>
> Mannea is yet another Pelerine named after a saint who was beheaded.
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