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Father Inire as Dionysus

Sergei SOLOVIEV · 26 Oct 2011, 15:55 · from 2011-October.txt.gz

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From: soloviev at irit.fr (Sergei SOLOVIEV)
Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:55:32 +0200
Subject: (urth) Father Inire as Dionysus
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What about the epoch when humankind travelled to the Stars? Vodalus wants
to restore it. Hardly possible if there was always  just one ship.

Sergei

Lee Berman wrote:
>> David Stockhoff: Certainly "Hector" should have significance, even if ironic. But what's 
>> a demonic magistrate?
>>     
>
> I don't know! I found it in an obscure occult text from 1920. I don't normally read such
> stuff. But I get the impression Gene Wolfe has. There really aren't many online references
> to the name "Hethor" and most of them are post-BotNS (i.e. probably inspired by it).
>  
>   
>> What of the other suggested names: Kimleesoong? Heston/Colonel George 
>> Taylor?
>>     
>
> Humorously, I also considered "Heston" as a possible inspiration for "Hethor" but only because
> I detect other 60's pop culture references in BotNS. I don't think it is a serious consideration
> though.
>  
> I just don't get this stuff about "Hector". Wolfe isn't doing that (changing the spelling/sound
> of mythological names). He doesn't give us Syphon or The Cumaeshion or Tzradspiel. He uses the
> original, correct english spelling (or at least one of them, when there are variants).
>  
>
>   
>> I'm not sure a friend would appreciate having a pervert named for him. 
>> Hethor doesn't seem the type to have followers anyway.
>>     
>
> Again, with all due credit (a lot!) to Mantis, I think he is off base in thinking Hethor is 
> Kim Lee Soong. There is so much else about Hethor which points elsewhere.
>  
> Yes there is the suggestion that Hethor avoids Jonas to avoid being recognized. And in UotNS
> Severian sees a Jonas look-alike on the ship and a Hethor look-alike on the ship. That's 
> enough for me. They were ship mates.
>  
> I think it is a goosechase to think there is more than one ship which becomes lost in the folds
> of time. The text hints there is only one and I take the hint. Hethor's ship is the Quasar which
> (at least in the 70's) is the oppsite of a black hole, a White Fountain. That ship travels to Yesod 
> to retrieve the White  Fountain. Severiran's"family" crest includes a ship and a fountain. These
> clues paint a pretty clear picture for me. 		 	   		  
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