Horns abilities
Daniel Petersen · 26 Oct 2011, 17:29
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From: danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com (Daniel Petersen) Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2011 18:29:33 +0100 Subject: (urth) Horns abilities In-Reply-To: <CAJ8=rthKkQkD0c2-WfKv=85=pV=rm+bbWWUmPim1BBTX5xmOQg at mail.gmail.com> References: <1319642471.36040.YahooMailClassic at web161801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <4EA833D3.9040201 at gmail.com> <CAJ8=rtit=MqeZd3=Rf6GCWEM6botLe=h1zUrOier-t5L7ucD-w at mail.gmail.com> <CAGB0RZ6yWAYX++zaSBf+FYdeqW0M35Tth-Reb3RU6QwjNdex7w at mail.gmail.com> <CAJ8=rtgD_Hdqrr6GTKiYWc5i-=j0w30W0DEp5EX2UnSLxXjJDA at mail.gmail.com> <CAGB0RZ5hN=C+5dkz1dFnvBHmvA7t6eqOHiNm6d6R8x6RjT6C8w at mail.gmail.com> <CAJ8=rthKkQkD0c2-WfKv=85=pV=rm+bbWWUmPim1BBTX5xmOQg at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <CAGB0RZ51UfStuVSnqvCT7qj9wTS3kLJXW8NYz6zdguMWL77qYw at mail.gmail.com> *I too am an adult convert to Catholicism, among other things* You've converted as an adult to other religions as well? Heh, heh, just jokin'. *the wor(l)d was spoken -- is in itself a kind of text. The Word of God was made flesh, and indeed has its point-of-origin in some sense in the flesh; it is always already _incarnate_ (i.e., not merely spoken but written). The spoken word of God is the Act of Creation* Well, I admit I didn't expect you to go there, but, yeah, if we're talking about a Logos-cosmos when we say things like 'the world is text' or what have you, then I'm right there with you. That's the metaphysics I think Wolfe brings to his craft - and the craft is richer for it in my opinion. (Incidentally, I accept such a worldview as well, though not myself RC - a lowly Proddy I'm afraid - we can't seem to make any great authors of our own so we are ever the barnacles on the great RC writers - though I'm proud to steal a ride from such legendary vessels as Chesterton, Wolfe, O'Connor, Percy, Lafferty, etc.) *I think that to understand what Wolfe is doing here we must understand not only the textuality of the text but the _radical_ textuality of the "internal" reality of his stories.* Don't think I understand this bit. *What _is_ there for us to interpret, but the text and its intertextuality?* I'm not sure Wolfe ever gets so far down inside a narratological rat's nest that he or we can never emerge. From interviews I'd say he definitely envisions us going all the way through the labyrinth and out again, bewildered and humbled, yes, but also wiser and nobler. We readers have a hard time trusting him about this and even wonder if it's just one more lie, I think. But I have to say, without any thought as to whether I ever understand even a small percent of the intertextual mysteries he delivers, I do trust his face-value claim that he's not just trying to irretrievably confuse his readers. (I'm not saying this because I think you, Dan'l, mistrust Wolfe's claim - I don't know one way or the other. It just occurs to me in thinking of being potentially locked only into his 'internal' text.) I guess I mean that I don't think unreliability is the last word in Wolfe, even though he has made such extensive use of it. -DOJP -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20111026/a46867cc/attachment.htm>
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