Pike/Oreb

James Wynn · 01 Nov 2011, 19:31 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 14:31:01 -0500
Subject: (urth) Pike/Oreb
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On 11/1/2011 12:50 PM, Dave Tallman wrote:
> larry miller wrote
>
>     Started reading Lake of Long Sun last night and Im totally confused
>     about the appearance of Patera Pike and Oreb in Silks room.  I know
>     there was some mention of this last week in a few posts but I didnt
>     want to chime in until I read it.  Thing is I still have no clue as to
>     what to make of it.  Anyone out there have any idea what to make of
>     that sequence?
>
>  My conclusion a while back is that it wasn't actually Patera Pike he 
> saw, but his older self astral-traveling back in time, and bringing 
> Oreb along. The BOTSS novels show Silk using this ability quite a bit.
>
> I have a short article discussing that and other theories about the 
> apparition on the Wolfe Wiki:
> http://www.wolfewiki.com/pmwiki/pmwiki.php?n=LakeOfTheLongSun.TheHolyGhost
>

My only discrepancy with the description of the "Silk astra-projecting 
through time" theory is that it attempts to explain away Silk's 
mis-identification of himself as Pike in that "he didn't get a clear 
look at the face".

I don't personally find that to be compelling. The text doesn't imply 
that Silk *thinks* it looked like Pike.
If one asks, "Why did Silk mistake an older version of himself (although 
probably slightly altered in astral-travel) for Patera Pike?" all kinds 
additional plot elements suggest themselves.

Also, I think the problematic time-line in tBotSS suggests that 
astral-travel always has a potential for time-travel.

J.

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