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Antonin Scriabin · 02 Nov 2011, 15:54 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: kierkegaurdian at gmail.com (Antonin Scriabin)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 11:54:48 -0400
Subject: (urth) This week in Google Alerts
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Additionally, I had gotten the impression that off-world species had been
introduced, had time to interbreed, and evolve into new, pseudo-native
species.  It seems on the magnitude of millions of years to me.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 11:52 AM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com>wrote:

> Once again.
>
> TBotNS is far enough in the future that mountains containing the ruins
> of long-buried cities have risen. This is not on the order of 20 or 30
> thousand years; it is millions.
>
> On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 7:29 AM, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: David Stockhoff
> >> I believe the 20,000-year figure is from Wolfe. Since no major changes
> >> could have occurred from "now" to Severian's time anyway, the
> >> significant changes are cultural, not geographic. Yet European languages
> >> are still spoken on the Whorl; even if they had to be revived for
> >> Typhon's purposes, they still survived that long.
> >
> > Even in Severian?s time scholars retain some understanding of English,
> as we
> > know from Thea?s disquisition about the renaming of Verthandi and Skuld.
> >
> > The atmosphere of BotNS has always reminded me of Robert Silverberg?s
> > Nightwings, which is, if I recall correctly, set around the year 30000.
> > Here the names of certain cities (Rome and Jorslem) survive.  Just as in
> > BotNS, the world is pseudo-feudal with high-tech elements.  Earth is the
> > clapped-out remnant of a hubristic interstellar empire and is now under
> the
> > ownership of aliens.
> >
> > As far as I know Wolfe has never acknowledged any literary debt to
> > Nightwings, although it was published around 1970.  Of course it may
> well be
> > that he never read it and his and Silverberg?s visions evolved
> > independently, albeit obviously from similar roots in Vance and
> elsewhere.
> >
> > - Gerry Quinn
> >
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