Hyacinth

larry miller · 03 Nov 2011, 00:31 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: biglar1984 at gmail.com (larry miller)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 20:31:30 -0400
Subject: (urth) Hyacinth
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As someone who is rereading Long Sun in search of mysteries and
puzzles I would love to hear your theory on Hyacinths nature as well
as anything in the text that suggests she is not a female.  This is a
theory I have never heard before and Am interested in hearing more.

On 11/2/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 11/2/2011 9:15 AM, Lee Berman wrote:
>> I was just checking into the Hyacinth myth [...]
>> James Wynn has suggested Patera Incus (I think it was him, yes?) might be
>> part of a gender bender thing going on. I wonder if James might find the
>> inclusion of Zephyrus (West Wind) as part of the Hyacinth-Apollo story to
>> be of interest.
>
> So inquiries like this one make me realize that although my comments on
> this list don't go back as far as Borkski's or Mantis' or Roy's, it has
> been a long while now. So long, in fact, that very infamous theories
> that I helped initiate are not even lore anymore.
>
> Immediately after I finished "The Book of the Long Sun" so many years
> ago, I posited that Hyacinth might be a male chem who had himself
> retrofitted to pass as a woman. I did not know at the time that Marc
> Aramini had posited only a few months earlier that Hyacinth might be male.
>
> I don't believe my "male chem" theory anymore (I only half believed it
> even then), nor even Marc's "male Hyacinth" theory. I've moved on. But I
> can still see the appeal of theories along that line. There's something
> "off" about Hy. She has a secret that Chenille knows to some extent. At
> the time I offered the "male chem" theory, I noted that Hyacinth
> followed the same transformative pattern as Dracaina of "The Soldier of
> the Mist". I asked at that time "what was Hyacinth before"? I have
> another working theory that I'm currently collating. I don't think Hy is
> or has ever been male, but I am still convinced she ain't no ordinary girl.
>
> J.
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