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James Wynn · 05 Nov 2011, 18:46
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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn) Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2011 13:46:16 -0500 Subject: (urth) This week in Google alerts In-Reply-To: <1320515183.73995.YahooMailClassic at web161804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1320515183.73995.YahooMailClassic at web161804.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EB58478.3020809 at gmail.com> On 11/5/2011 12:46 PM, Marc Aramini wrote: > I realized that, even when confronted with the truth, the list could not see it and would disagre; not until Dave Tallman started posting on An Evil Guest years and years later did I see much interesting interpretive work being down in the fashion that Wolfe's work requires. I would see soemthing like, hey, these trees are fishy five years after I extolled my theory and quell the urge to retread the same worn paths of disappointment. Of course, Marc, the thing is that you and I have agreed about those trees and liannas from the beginning. Yet, we fundamentally disagree about their relationship to the main character. And, even more so, when we have people who adamantly refuse to acknowledge that Dionysus is an important touchstone even in Return To The Whorl, let alone the rest of the series...well, you have to set proper expectations. I can understand your frustration in that you believe that you have discovered a revealing understanding of a quite opaque story, and you would have liked some help, but all you get is hand-waving. But there are obstacles and the obstacles have to be acknowledged in order to be resolved: * Astronomy: What is Blue (with presumably similar gravity to Urth)? Where is Lune? How did Green in up in this weird twin planet relationship? * Zoology: The existence of the inhumi and Blue's very particular wildlife is something. Of course, they could be transplants from elsewhere...as could the Neighbors (ala the world of An Evil Guest). * Humanity: If the Neighbors are NOT humanity's future, where have they gone. There's the barnacled fellow Horn encounters coming from beneath the waves. Has humanity moved below the seas of Blue? Green certainly seems abandoned of humanity except for immigrants from the Whorl. The hostility and derision you received did not come from a good place. The lack of support you received is something: People just didn't know where to go with the Green Urth Theory based on the obstacles. This makes me think of my Tussah-Typhon theory. It works on a lot of levels but I know it is not *quite* right--there's something else going on I'm not aware of. I am only confident that it is pointing in the right direction.
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