Urth Net

← back to the conversation

This week in Google alerts

Gerry Quinn · 05 Nov 2011, 19:55 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: gerry at bindweed.com (Gerry Quinn)
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 19:55:21 -0000
Subject: (urth) This week  in Google alerts
In-Reply-To: <4EB58A74.2030109 at gmail.com>
References: <SNT123-W3944B1093A3A54057F5AD8CFDA0 at phx.gbl><944700BE64674BAFA2F5935E9AE095DE@Rover><4EB42C37.8040704 at gmail.com><EFB0B66565F54B10A0926D481A145C64@Rover><4D3629B3-DAEF-45E0-80BE-7B6890F91A40 at gmail.com><6C8AB1ED91C746E68F9E8F67AA9B3F1B@Rover><4EB554AB.1080603 at verizon.net><732292DA83B348E4B8DF95FEFE802FB3@Rover>
	<4EB58A74.2030109 at gmail.com>
Message-ID: <90ACE7ED84BB4D8584D722EDC23F5DEB@Rover>



From: James Wynn 

Okay. Then, I am going to apply Gerry's literary criticism method to a hypothetical book.

> This book makes references to "Lorina Liddell's sister" and "Lodh Carol". The main character (a blonde > BOY wearing a blue and white outfit) enters a cave around which rabbits have created extensive > > > warrens. On the other side, he meets a wagon maker (latin, "carpentarius") who says he used to work > at Sea World where he trained a walrus to do tricks. His nemeses are a pair of overweight twins > > > named Deter and Dumball who are the leaders of opposing sides in a gang war. One of them >
 > explains that their weight problems are due to a congenital condition cause by a leptin condition
>. They explain that their parents named them for the two closest towns to the house where they were >born. 

> Now using Gerry's method, it is ludicrous to think the author is flashing references to the works of 
> Lewis Carroll. After all, the meaning of Deter and Dumball's names is clearly explained and is not >literary at all. Their chubbiness is a result of a specific plot element in their lives. Analyzing the plot >with reference to Alice's adventures in Wonderland is a terrific waste of time.

>I think this method is counter-productive.
For a book such as you describe, it would be counterproductive ? and I do not doubt that such books may very well exist.
There remains the question, however, of whether Gene Wolfe writes books of this kind, and I do not think he does. 
- Gerry Quinn
  






--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Urth Mailing List
To post, write urth at urth.net
Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20111105/a093b63f/attachment-0001.htm>

An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net