Pike/Oreb

Marc Aramini · 06 Nov 2011, 01:49 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 18:49:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: (urth) Pike/Oreb
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--- On Sat, 11/5/11, Andrew Mason <andrew.mason53 at googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: Andrew Mason <andrew.mason53 at googlemail.com>
> Subject: (urth) Pike/Oreb
> To: urth at lists.urth.net
> Date: Saturday, November 5, 2011, 3:58 PM
> Haing now reread the pasage, I am
> still worried about Oreb. it's his
> presence, presumably, that is the signal that 'Pike' is
> actualy a
> time-travelling Rajan - if it were not for that he might be
> many
> things, an actual ghost, a vision produced by the Outsider,
> even a
> time-travelling PIke. But Oreb is not actually with Pike;
> he flies out
> of the window some time before Pike appears. And I remain
> unconvinced
> that it is Oreb, Silk sees him at the moment of waking, in
> the dark,
> through a curtain. In those circumstances he might mistake
> almost
> anything that flies for Oreb. I don't think we've ruled out
> the
> possibility that it's Quetzal.
> 
> I also wonder what Mucor is doing there. We have _three_
> ghostly
> visitors to Silk's house; one feels there should be a
> connection
> between them. Silk later speculates that Mucor summoned
> Pike, though
> he's very likely wrong. In any case, I don't see how Mucor
> can be
> fitted into the time-travel story.

Mucor, Fava, and Mora or whatever her name is go back in time at one point to retrieve Hy's spirit, if the doll in the dreams in Short Sun is indeed Mucor.

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