vanished people=Hieros

Marc Aramini · 09 Nov 2011, 18:56 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 10:56:44 -0800 (PST)
Subject: (urth) vanished people=Hieros
In-Reply-To: <4EBAC828.3020708 at gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1320865004.99515.YahooMailClassic at web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>



--- On Wed, 11/9/11, Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: (urth) vanished people=Hieros
> To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
> Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2011, 10:36 AM
> David Stockhoff wrote (09-11-2011
> 18:32):
> > On 11/8/2011 5:36 PM, Gerry Quinn wrote:
> >> *From:* Marc Aramini <mailto:marcaramini at yahoo.com>
> >> **
> >> > To have it be any city other than Nessus
> would simply create an
> >> > insoluble puzzle ...
> >> Only if you reject the possibility that two
> different cities could be
> >> similar in certain respects.
> >> - Gerry Quinn
> >
> > So, two cities by a river could be made of stone with
> clustered rocket
> > landers as towers? That's clearly possible, but which
> cities would those be?
> 
> Most cities are by rivers.
> Cities not made of stone would not physically endure long
> after abandoned.
> The rocket tower is the one linking element. Acceptable,
> but not strong.
> 

The other linking element is how when he thinks about the cities he is somehow "reminded" of the other one.  Does Paris remind you of New York? maybe, but Houston remind you of Seattle or Thrax remind you of Nessus?

The narrator has shown he can't make identifications when he has a reason to deny them: NO, I told you I'm not Silk.  "Looked in the mirror?"  Not Silk! "read this passage?"  Okay, [nodding] I'm Silk.  His denial is STRONG.

So the rocket is not the only linking element (and indeed, though I risk weakening my own argument, it's not even entirely clear from context whether that tower is originally from the city or an old abandoned one from the Whorl, but Wolfe is ambiguous as always)

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