vanished people=Hieros

James Wynn · 10 Nov 2011, 17:54 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn)
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:54:52 -0600
Subject: (urth) vanished people=Hieros
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> *From:* James Wynn <mailto:crushtv at gmail.com>
>
> >   What if Blue is Verthandi and it has over time moved to a more 
> distant
> > orbit?
>
> Gerry Quinn wrote:
> Not that I believe a word of this, but why is everyone talking about 
> Verthandi?  If Blue is somehow a planet of the Solar System it surely 
> has to be Skuld.  The surface gravity of Verthandi is only a third of 
> Urth's, and somebody would have noticed.

Why? The wakers had never been on Urth. The sleepers arrived at Blue 
only via the Whorl and then a weightless voyage to on a lander. You 
would have to affirm that the gravity for the Cargo on the Whorl was the 
same as that on Urth. There is no evidence either way.

Aside from relative position of Blue to Green that makes Verthandi a 
candidate for Blue in a Green Urth system, there are thematic 
connections between Blue and Verthandi as well:
* See Edgar Rice Burrough's "Princess of Mars". (The Whorl is also 
analogous to Burrough's "Pelucidar".)
* See Lan Wright's "The Last Hope of the Earth" (colonization of Mars, 
floating islands of plants, hyacinths, a generation star ship)

>  Ah, I think you are mistaking the names of Wolfe's planets.  
> Verthandi is Mars, Skuld is Venus, which at least has gravity similar 
> to Earth.

Not at all.  Moving Skuld's orbit to outside of Urth's would be 
problematic in the extreme.
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