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Hunter of the East

Gerry Quinn · 14 Nov 2011, 00:52 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: gerry at bindweed.com (Gerry Quinn)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:52:20 -0000
Subject: (urth) Hunter of the East
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From: David Stockhoff 

> >> I interpret the poem on its own terms. If the poem had 
> >> referred to the Huntsman?s starry sword, I?d have no hesitation in 
> >> saying the Huntsman is Orion. But he?s the Huntsman of the East, and 
> >> he throws a noose of sunlight, so he?s obviously the rising Sun.
> >> It?s not rocket science.

> Does Gerry know that the "starry sword" is about the one weapon Orion 
> does NOT use? He is imagined with club, bow, staff, scythe, maybe even 
> net, and so on (not that the pre-Wiki, Victorian Homo sapiens knew all 
> this), but the short sword is ALWAYS at his side. So it would be pretty 
> freaky for him to use it on a tower.
I said ?if the poem had referred to the sword?.  Nothing about whether it is referred to as being used to attack a tower, or being used for anything at all.  The point is, a starry sword would be an example of an Orion reference.  But instead, the Huntsman has Sun references.
- Gerry Quinn
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