Hunter of the East
Jeff Wilson · 14 Nov 2011, 04:03
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From: jwilson at clueland.com (Jeff Wilson) Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:03:17 -0600 Subject: (urth) Hunter of the East In-Reply-To: <A362222C99AA4451904A0AFF99491471@Rover> References: <SNT123-W590B5D65ECD91E113A84D6CFDD0 at phx.gbl><9401E4BF41DE4891B3B9B27A06BA5FD3@Rover><4EBD79F7.9040301 at verizon.net><CAJ8=rtiCnS1rsheDm=PzGYBJ0JN-1TyKfCbRp0y_ZHMki1QO8g at mail.gmail.com><4EBD8027.70309 at verizon.net><CAJ8=rtiT8gCaN=fPe6ek2EwD+BG8DL2Vg_Z-JMc+9BM7pVcHYA at mail.gmail.com><4EBDA5E6.1020303 at verizon.net><79C39C9600854475967827BB5AA8EB86@Rover><4EBE8FC4.4000502 at verizon.net><BF478B4779C54229B18C856369E74CB6@Rover><4EBEB059.6070806 at verizon.net><DA05C17DE35C4F638CEB050D36149089@Rover><4EBF29CD.9060306 at verizon.net><4EBF3F39.5070506 at gmail.com><D775F9D2531B4846951755C5507539FB@Rover><4EBFC367.7080103 at gmail.com><96AAE7CF1C604624A4B6CDAD1244351F@Rover> <4EBFD15D.1070402 at gmail.com> <A362222C99AA4451904A0AFF99491471@Rover> Message-ID: <4EC09305.8040501 at clueland.com> On 11/13/2011 8:48 AM, Gerry Quinn wrote: > > The sky is not a reflection. You are imagining a mirror, and a > refection, all your own. > > You are creating your own poem here. > The ?noose of light? around the turret is reflected sunlight. It?s not > exactly a conventional mirror, but when you see it you *are* seeing the > Sun. I think you are reaching here, Gerry, and if it's to make a point that point is eluding me. There might be a reflected image of the sun visible *in* the surface of a turret, but I don't see how the reflection could surround the turret without some further, smooth background object to cast the reflection. If the sunlight need only be reflected by anything to count as letting the observer see the sun, then *everything* not self-luminous shows us the sun, and the distinction of the noose is meaningless. Perhaps the noose is the circular limb of the solar disc itself, or the refractory halo in the atmosphere, with the suiltan's turret silhouetted against it. Some representative photos: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap111112.html http://www.upiu.com/other/2011/03/19/Ecuador-atmospheric-phenomena-seen-around-the-sun/UPIU-1301300519322/ (this last includes a sundog mentioned earlier, but the central area of luminosity is what I had in mind) -- Jeff Wilson - jwilson at clueland.com Computational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana < http://www.tamut.edu/CIL >
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