Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy
James Wynn · 17 Nov 2011, 01:12
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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn) Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:12:24 -0600 Subject: (urth) Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy In-Reply-To: <F3ABD324B1E84461A089FEF226F8FC30@Rover> References: <163817.55332.qm at web58206.mail.re3.yahoo.com><006a01cba98c$08dce140$76d04a0c@rclackey><4EC2EA57.6050603 at verizon.net> <4EC2F7F8.50603 at verizon.net><4EC32090.3080402 at gmail.com><B9D6EE0B77924CE3B3A6141A77AE9C7B@Rover><4EC3D6A0.3010702 at gmail.com><785184038C7F43F5B8904AF2ACEEDAEC@Rover><4EC3EA56.5040304 at verizon.net><269ABB99AB7A4844B481781484E4FFE0@Rover><4EC3F0F1.8050004 at gmail.com><361A3DF9EDE34095B43F57AFC934C667@Rover><4EC3FB63.7010301 at gmail.com><8B62A70E4701459087B6534260A0D361@Rover><4EC40D79.1080009 at gmail.com><3509EB1DEEA74B1A868D1A0E3A6D2E7A@Rover><4EC425DF.8000303 at gmail.com><CAJ8=rthM7y+s2Jk+2OF6t1JUhYrhJLNKEmkcvQMj752B=Hz6Xw at mail.gmail.com> <4EC42AFA.2000008 at gmail.com> <F3ABD324B1E84461A089FEF226F8FC30@Rover> Message-ID: <4EC45F78.9000300 at gmail.com> On 11/16/2011 6:44 PM, Gerry Quinn wrote: > *From:* James Wynn <mailto:crushtv at gmail.com> > > > Anyway, the presence of a "second" Oreb, means that the Rajan is there > > nearby. And we *do* meet an "old man" (which is how people refer to > him) > > a short time later in Pike's room. > Perhaps Silk is right about Oreb jumping down to the kitchen garden. > Or perhaps there is some other explanation for what he saw (seemingly > a bird, behind a curtain, flying out an open window). > But one thing stands out here. Whatever they call him in Gaon, the > Rajan is 43. When Pike died, he had a son who was over 50. Okay. He's a squinty-eyed forty-three year old with long white hair whose appearance is marginally affected by the way the thinks of himself. And who is Silk's mentor? Pike. IMO, what is established is that Pike's ghost was the Rajan. Believing the Wolfe the author intended that Oreb hopped into Silk's room, jumped out the window, and then steadfastly lied about it is simply not tenable. That's not a Wolfe story. That's not anybody's story. If you have an alternate explanation, I'm all ears. Andrew Mason has posed that maybe it was Quetzal. I can't imagine that would appeal to you since *wouldn't Wolfe has followed that up with some comment about it*? And, anyway, could Quetzal have been mistaken for a night chough? Still, if you have an better explanation of auctorial intent, I'm ready to consider it. Mine attempts to explain everything going on that night. J. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20111116/0aa945bb/attachment.htm>
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