Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy

António Pedro Marques · 17 Nov 2011, 17:25 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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Subject: (urth) Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy
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James Wynn wrote (17-11-2011 17:14):
>
>>
>>> It is inconceivable that Silk, who has
>>> performed dozens if not hundreds of sacrifices by this time, would not know
>>> the difference between a dead bird and a fainted one or a faking one. Oreb
>>> was possessed (most likely) by Pas.
>>
>> Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:
>> By dead Pas, who was where?, and what's possession got to do with looking
>> dead or resurrecting?
>
> Possessed creatures have capabilities beyond those possible for
> non-possessed creatures. When Chenille is possessed by Scylla she leaps out
> of the water like a dolphin. When she is possessed by Kyrpris, she throws a
> knife twice hitting precisely the same spot. Marble possessed by Echidna
> summons all the snakes from the neighborhood. Since I do not believe that a
> "normal" night chough can play dead sufficiently to fool an augur
> (particularly one very motivated for the animal NOT to have died during
> sacrifice), I assume he was possessed. Since black birds are sacred to Pas,
> Hierax, and Tartaros but only one of these has "died", I consider the death
> a signal that it is Pas possessing Oreb.

Ok, so you're saying that Pas possessed Oreb then made him play dead, rather 
than resurrected a dead Oreb. Someone could comb the story for evidence that 
Oreb was possessed at that point (and a way for it to have happened), maybe 
that would lead us somewhere.

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