Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy

Marc Aramini · 17 Nov 2011, 19:12 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: marcaramini at yahoo.com (Marc Aramini)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:12:45 -0800 (PST)
Subject: (urth) Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy
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--- On Thu, 11/17/11, James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: (urth) Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy
> To: "The Urth Mailing List" <urth at lists.urth.net>
> Date: Thursday, November 17, 2011, 11:03 AM
> On 11/17/2011 11:55 AM, David
> Stockhoff wrote:
> > On 11/17/2011 12:28 PM,
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> James Wynn wrote:
> >>> I assume he was possessed. Since black birds
> are sacred to Pas,
> >>> Hierax, and Tartaros but only one of these has
> "died", I consider the death
> >>> a signal that it is Pas possessing Oreb.
> >>> 
> >> 
> >> Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
> >> But the fact that Pas is dead at that point seems
> to me to make it
> >> unlikely that he could possess Oreb, no?
> >> 
> > 
> > David Stockoff wrote:
> > Tartarus, the dark god of black animals who worked to
> revive Pas, seems a more likely suspect.
> 
> I kind of like the idea of Pas on the business end of a
> sacrifice. Also, there is the whole (quite intentional)
> Osiris motif in which Isis (Kypris) has to run around
> gathering parts of the god after he has been murdered. We
> have Patera Jaculus and we probably have Sand. I'd like more
> parts. There's Silk, but he's the phallus part that was
> missing that has to be added after his resurrection.
> 
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James, I agree that the mapping of some myths are to be expected and found, my problem with bringing in a bunch of different mythos is that Wolfe couldn't have alluded to them all intentionally and still made a good story that follows his plan without losing his free will to guide the story.

Some allusion is of course spot on, but Pazuzu and Enkidu and all the norse gods can't be used at the same time - it has to mapped to a named/referenced mythology or the analysis is bogged down in too many variables.  This is why all my ideas are first formed from the text, then from mythical names explicitly mentioned, and only later from more esoteric or less obviously alluded to mythic situations, with provenance and supremacy given to biblical/Christian or Greek myths as the dominant/ most well known mythic resonances.

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