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Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy

David Stockhoff · 18 Nov 2011, 01:03 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:03:30 -0500
Subject: (urth) Babbiehorn?: Was: a sincere question mostly for roy
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On 11/17/2011 7:21 PM, James Wynn wrote:
>
>>>  James Wynn wrote:
>>> The question (maybe) you are posing is..."why is Silk the phallus?" 
>>> That is, why was Silk chosen to supplement what was still missing 
>>> after Pas's resurrection?
>>
>> David Stockhoff wrote:
>> Well, why Silk, AND why the phallus?
>
> Well, um, you know it's not a literal phallus, right? It was Osiris 
> that was pieced together except his junk. You asked how many parts 
> and, I just looked it up-- it was 14. The phallus was the missing 14th 
> part. She made phallus for him out of gold.

I know now! ;)

I see---the phallus was special.
>
> Why do I say Silk was the phallus? Because his contribution is added 
> well after Pas's resurrection. Pas is busy blasting Echidna and 
> chasing Hierax and Scylla all over tarnation. Presumably he has enough 
> to be powerful, but maybe not enough to be stable. So...recognizing 
> the story of Osiris here, it looks to me that Silk is the 14th part. 
> Additionally, when Silk is pondering something, he draws little 
> circles on his cheek. I have notes from my first reading in which I 
> wrote "Circles...gold?" (The alchemical symbol for gold is a circle.)


ahhh...
>
> Another potential connection for Oreb being possessed by Pas? After 
> Isis found Osiris's body the first time, she hid it in the marshlands. 
> There's some insight into the way I read Wolfe.

That's why you think Oreb might have had a piece of Pas.
>
>>> And THAT question is IMO among the strongest hints that Silk is a 
>>> clone of Typhon. I don't like that. I want Silk to be the son of 
>>> Typhon. But there it is.
>>
>> What was taken from Silk? Seems like there was a "small piece" in 
>> Jaculu, and who knows what from Sand. If Silk had to be scanned, that 
>> suggests he provided a bigger piece. That's significant.
>
> I think so. As Kypris-in-Chenille explained it, a human brain can hold 
> only a small portion of a Mainframe god. A creature with a smaller 
> brain, even less. So in order for enough of Pas to resurrect on the 
> Mainframe you have to gather enough parts. The most logical 
> explanation for me, as I said (and I really hate this), is that Silk 
> is a clone of Typhon. They the gathering all the basic brain and 
> personality patterns directly from a source.
>
> Since I believe that chem personalities are made from mindwiped scans 
> of actual people, I'm going to posit that Sand is made from a scan of 
> Typhon. And that that is why Silk had a disjointed epiphany that he 
> and Sand were in some way brothers.


Bingo. That has always rung true to me. It's funny that you've figured 
it out but don't like it!

Thus the whole brother-of-Chenille (who is really a female Auk AFAICT) 
issue, as well as the physical appearance of Blood and Pike vs Silk.

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