Birds, bees, mind-wipes
David Stockhoff · 18 Nov 2011, 17:41
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:41:41 -0500 Subject: (urth) Birds, bees, mind-wipes In-Reply-To: <4EC694E0.6040304 at gmail.com> References: <1321557165.31105.YahooMailClassic at web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><4EC564E7.6070002 at gmail.com><CAJ8=rtj2S639qkvW+L4HP2ajnxKb6EZ9wssdWzDkw3TUWy0VLQ at mail.gmail.com><4EC5686F.3090709 at gmail.com> <4EC56B8E.2010706 at verizon.net><4EC573F7.2080409 at gmail.com> <4EC575D1.3080500 at verizon.net><CAJ8=rtg7PUbDvBEFnOVqOZfpOjhTOfNZ8yM4F-vexWC+V2iUcQ at mail.gmail.com><4EC5801D.5010306 at gmail.com> <4EC59E29.2030208 at verizon.net> <4EC5A517.2030509 at gmail.com> <17C6B4E1901B47888484801843DD5A13@Rover> <4EC694E0.6040304 at gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EC698D5.7040505 at verizon.net> On 11/18/2011 12:24 PM, James Wynn wrote: > > I would presume that the mindwipes and tweakings are far more > extensive chems than for humans. Chems are specifically programmed for > some useful activity. Marble is going to be fulfilled in cleaning and > service. At the same time, Hammerstone notes that chems enjoy the > smells of good food but can't eat it. Female chems wear perfume. They > practice their handwriting. What value would there be in programming > such character traits into a robot? Editing a personality would be so much easier than creating a new one that might go insane if it's buggy. Imagine a Windows chem! But the scans would need to be "sanitized" or else chems would have been constantly rebelling and going back to find their spouses, children, parents, and lovers. You'd have to cut out event-specific stuff like where a source was born, and leave the harmless functional stuff, whether it relates to "eating" or not. Especially, you'd have to cut out any memory of or need for sleep, or defecating, sex---especially for soldiers. Those things make humans neurotic and we CAN do them. If these desires are at least truncated, they might not be a problem. So you could argue either way, but the fact is we know scanning exists and that you can plug a scan into a chem, while we don't know of any programmers. I don't recall how the talus-maker said he created talus personalities, but I'd guess these are fairly stripped-down programs loaded into low-capacity hardware and they just take it off the shelf. I bet he keeps a backup DOS floppy disk locked up in his office.
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