Like a good Neighbor

David Stockhoff · 21 Nov 2011, 19:47 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:47:46 -0500
Subject: (urth) Like a good Neighbor
In-Reply-To: <0AED201855A64ABFA4803E59B93B7C40@Rover>
References: <1321817523.83932.YahooMailClassic at web161801.mail.bf1.yahoo.com><4EC959AF.6080106 at irit.fr><4EC98EA2.6060903 at gmail.com><F6785705-6390-45F9-8187-BA28D41DA4A1 at gmail.com><4EC99908.2050002 at gmail.com><CBD3CB6B352E4006B1E1B032B57E2E61@Rover><4EC9B83F.20109 at gmail.com><293B7EC250334AE89DB1BAEDC686DCD5@Rover><988E7802-D8C3-4302-906B-F949EE1D4352 at gmail.com><2487114869464FA8B2F62C7BA480D270@Rover><4ECA8589.9090104 at gmail.com><64847661D06A447C9AFECC3D963D0087@Rover><4ECA8FB9.3070104 at gmail.com><BCE9C57032C74579950B4573D86E0D80@Rover><4ECA9672.8010403 at verizon.net><42C404B1F6864871AFFEB69EF3266163@Rover>
	<4ECA9E68.5060303 at verizon.net>
	<0AED201855A64ABFA4803E59B93B7C40@Rover>
Message-ID: <4ECAAAE2.6060309 at verizon.net>

On 11/21/2011 2:12 PM, Gerry Quinn wrote:
> *From:* David Stockhoff <mailto:dstockhoff at verizon.net>
> > On 11/21/2011 1:42 PM, Gerry Quinn wrote:
>
> > > He *is* an obvious problem. James previously argued that he was a
> > > Neighbour who replaced Horn, and that fits okay with his theory. But
> > > if it can?t be that Neighbour, it must be someone else, and the
> > > question is who? If it was another Neighbour, why did he leave him
> > > stuck in the pit to die again? Why didn?t he say anything?
>
> > Why are those problems? Did you read anything I proposed on those 
> topics?
> I saw nothing but gnomic questions and inane sarcasm. They are 
> problems unless the ?rescue Horn? mission proposed by James is 
> scripted by the Marx Bothers.

That may explain why you're so hostile---you read looking for sarcasm.

And btw James did not propose a "rescue mission." To even say that says 
more about you than you realize.

You still haven't explained why they are problems. You may also not 
realize this, but to propose a theory you need to actually state your 
position on a few basic things. I see why you haven't, because then your 
assumptions would be vulnerable.

See, I still don't know why you think those are problems for James's 
(and my, and Marc's) theory. You dodged it again, this time pleading 
incomprehension.

Why are they problems?

> > > > How do you know which Neighbor it was? Why do you assume the 
> Neighbor
> > > > who resurrected him is no longer also still a non-Horn Neighbor?
> > > I think James is proposing that a Neighbour?s spirit went into him,
> > > presumably rendering that particular Neighbour hors de combat.
>
> > Presumably, yes. Based on .... ?
> One body per soul, that kind of thing. Sure, you can argue around it, 
> and say the Neighbour made a copy of himself and injected it into Horn 
> as a new soul. And then left him in the pit with no water. Why not? 
> Those crazy, crazy Neighbours. They?ll do anything for a lark.

For example, your "theory" assumes that "Neighbors are exactly like 
humans." Good luck defending that.

An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net