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Pike's ghost

Roy C. Lackey · 25 Nov 2011, 19:03 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: rclackey at stic.net (Roy C. Lackey)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 13:03:52 -0600
Subject: (urth) Pike's ghost
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James Wynn quoted and wrote:
> > Roy C. Lackey wrote:
> > As for the bird in Silk's bedroom, you postulated recently that
> > Oreb had been possessed by Pas at the time he "died" before Silk could
> > sacrifice him. You also recently noted that possessed humans can perform
> > feats they would not otherwise be able to perform. Pas could have done
that
> > with Oreb, damaged wing and all, and the bird not remember the event.
Not
> > that I believe it, but I guess you can't argue with yourself, either.
>
> I have no interest in arguing with myself but why would /you/ assert I
> can't do that when you are arguing with yourself right here?? Roy says
> "I don't believe that Pas possessed Oreb but I hereby propose that DID
> possess Oreb and send him into Silk's room."

I don't see how you could have read my paragraph and come to the conclusion
that I thought Pas was in Oreb at all. I said that I didn't believe it,
period.

> That's a solution? Why do we need to complicate things with a possession
> at all? Why not have Oreb hop up the stairs into Silk's room and jump
> down into the bushes? There has NEVER been a problem with getting Oreb
> into Silk's room or out. The problem has always been why he (or Pas for
> that matter) would go there in the first place and why he would continue
> to lie about it after Silk told him he wouldn't be punished for it. This
> is rank sophistry.

You are the one who brought up the possession of Oreb by Pas. I carried the
thought experiment a step further.

-Roy


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