Pike's ghost
David Stockhoff · 27 Nov 2011, 15:00
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:00:18 -0500 Subject: (urth) Pike's ghost In-Reply-To: <CADQR0Gr8MKx9iR7JewW4OxjgHHRuHVFosG=B16pjv3FB63Zi7Q at mail.gmail.com> References: <62964C02647543638EF4E01EA3858BDB@Rover> <1322343405.15374.YahooMailClassic at web161802.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <CADQR0GqG170iMVJgyFyx0K1gicvQRvo9r-ZuY0DTu0beEaTnOQ at mail.gmail.com> <9079DE06F5604F22871B51DFBF33D0C2@Rover> <CADQR0GokvUZbbFFPp0h7A7dbg7Zvnxii7Nj9RBcniyNg=63cLQ at mail.gmail.com> <9FA919E4E01F4BA1BB7452CC0CE27EF0@Rover> <CADQR0Gr8MKx9iR7JewW4OxjgHHRuHVFosG=B16pjv3FB63Zi7Q at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ED25082.5060604 at verizon.net> That's an interesting and suggestive quote, but I think the key word is "monstrous." The man has two heads. I think the "night sky" has gnostic overtones that are stronger than any suggestion of actual alien-ness. On 11/27/2011 1:12 AM, Larry Miller wrote: > Well I dont think that Typhons alien origin was common knowledge among > the people thus his comment in Urth where Severian is told by Typhons > guard not to speak of anything he sees inside Typhons chambers. > Typhon perhaps doesnt want the illusion that he is human shattered. > And there is hints in the Vingtners comments to Severian that the > people wish to overthrow Typhon. I think hes an alien mainly because > of Wolfes naming strategum and some things that he says to Severian. > When telling him about his grafting to Piaton he mentions the solar > decay and says "I should have left then." I think maybe hes refering > to escaping back to his homeworld. His comments about "sending his > thoughts into far places" are a reference to some psychic abilities he > has (and I know there are those on here that disagree). And theres > Severians initial description of the newly resurrected Monarch. > "...it was as though one of the monstous constellations of the night > sky had fallen to Urth and clothed itself in the flesh of humankind." > > On 11/26/11, Gerry Quinn<gerry at bindweed.com> wrote: >> >> From: Larry Miller >> >>> Thanks Gerry. My only problem with this theory is that I believe >>> Typhon is an alien. Silk may be have been a body grown for Pas to use >>> after disembarking, a body for "permanent possession" that he could >>> rule from. Again I am willing to hear any evidence or opinions >>> regarding this. >> Why would humans be loyal to an alien? Severian sees him as a man with two >> heads, but notices no other non-human characteristics. >> Typhon may well have come from off-Urth, but I think he is human, or >> approximately so. >> What makes you think he is an alien? >> - Gerry Quinn >> > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net >
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