Pike's ghost

Lee Berman · 28 Nov 2011, 03:25 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: severiansola at hotmail.com (Lee Berman)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:25:14 -0500
Subject: (urth) Pike's ghost
Message-ID: <SNT123-W32DE1E1E63A572375FA831CFB20 at phx.gbl>

>larry miller: Didnt all the sleepers have thier minds wiped before boarding the
>Whorl?  That would seem to solve the problem of recognition of Silk.

Yes. There is an additional bit of evidence. In the back of a manteion, during a

search for a working window, iirc, Silk discovers a painting of "Pas" depicting 

him presiding over an orgy scene of sexual debauchery. The nursing of erection(s)

presents us with a clear clue that Pas is the Typhon that Severian meets and that

the depiction  of his tyrannical perversions is accurate.

There is no glimmer of recognition in Silk. No jog of memory of some hint in the 

Chrasmologic Writings or anything. Silk just considers it utter blasphemy, destroys

it on the spot and never mentions it again (iirc). There is clearly something working

on the Whorl to erase accurate memories of Typhon. (and that something may be a part

of Silk).

>> Miles isn't his real name. Severian calls him that because he is
>> nameless and is a soldier. It means "soldier."

>larry miller: Doesnt Miles eventually recover some memories and tell Severian that
>his name is in fact Miles though?

Yes though the restored memory is reported to Severian by a Pelerine, not by

Miles himself.

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