Pike's Ghost

James Wynn · 28 Nov 2011, 17:35 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:35:51 -0600
Subject: (urth) Pike's Ghost
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However, their memories have been tinkered with. If a Cargo would not 
have had a moment of striking recognition at Silk's appearance, I don't 
think a Sleeper would do any better. The Sleepers don't even call him 
Typhon. They call him Pas like everyone else. Although he remembers that 
the gods walked among them on Urth, he also still considers them gods.

On 11/28/2011 5:26 AM, Sergei SOLOVIEV wrote:
> Duke Rigoglio mentions having seen Pas/Typhon.
>
> Sergei
>
> Larry Miller wrote:
>> Didnt all the sleepers have thier minds wiped before boarding the
>> Whorl?  That would seem to solve the problem of recognition of Silk.
>> Maybe the cloned bodies wouldnt be fully grown in time for Typhon to
>> transfer into.  As far as being a "mind slave to a monstrous alien",
>> this doesnt seem to be too far from what the gods of the Whorl do or
>> what the Neighbor supposedly does to Horn in the pit.  What would make
>> that type of possession any different?
>>
>> On 11/27/11, Gerry Quinn <gerry at bindweed.com> wrote:
>>> From: Lee Berman
>>>
>>>>> larry miller: I think the more likely explanation regarding Silk as
>>>>> clone
>>>>> is that Silk is not a clone of Typhons original alien body but a 
>>>>> clone
>>>>> of
>>>>> the blond haired man whose head is grafted onto Piaton.
>>>> Agreed. (and it would solve some debates on the issue of "Silk=Pas?")
>>> Surely it?s evident that the blond-haired man *was* Typhon?
>>>
>>> If he were some sort of human mind-slave of a monstrous alien  (for 
>>> which I
>>> don?t believe there?s any textual evidence), and if cloning 
>>> technology were
>>> available, then the alien would surely make a bunch of clones and 
>>> switch to
>>> a new one if the old one wore out.  There would be no need for head
>>> transplants.
>>>
>>> Typhon is human or close to human.
>>>
>>> Also, if the blond-haired man were the known face of Pas, the same 
>>> problem
>>> would occur with regard to Silk in that none of the Sleepers seem to
>>> recognise him as a twin of the Monarch.
>>>
>>> - Gerry Quinn
>>>
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