Pike's ghost

David Stockhoff · 28 Nov 2011, 20:17 · from 2011-November.txt.gz

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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 15:17:41 -0500
Subject: (urth) Pike's ghost
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I'm not sure Typhon actually believed that his face was the source of 
his charisma. I think his face was simply the face his charisma was 
attached to, and he as much as said so: "it is the face [and I think he 
was speaking generally here] that men are accustomed to obey ." Echoing 
Malrubius' "attachment to the person of the monarch" and meaning only 
those men who are *already* accustomed to obey it, not that as many as 
ten generations from now men will suddenly obey a man with a magic face.

[The only way that could work is for Pas to have been made to look 
exactly like Typhon and kept in view so that Pas could pop into Silk, 
who meanwhile looks as much like Pas as possible, and be tyrant again. 
But Pas was murdered, or people presumably would have been writing 
"*Pas* for Calde" on the walls. So the whole Oz-like plan appears to 
have been rather fuzzy. Pas's face is not exactly everywhere, even 
allowing for the campaign to erase him. Typhon's own face may have been 
almost entirely unknown, since showing it had no purpose---no one knew 
who he was. The "Is Silk Typhon?" question is not whether Silk looks 
like Typhon but whether he looks like Pas, with whom Silk has no precise 
genetic relationship, despite some arguments to the contrary.]

Furthermore, I don't see any evidence that Silk is persuasive *because* 
of his face, although he must be good-looking enough. He's persuasive 
because he's decisive and humble and smart and sees things clearly. 
These may or may not be Typhonian characteristics.

Pas also may have been turned by the Outsider. But do you mean *Pas* 
would download himself? Funny, it seems to have almost gone the other 
way---or maybe it did---with Pas getting Silk's face but staying on the 
Whorl.

On 11/28/2011 1:16 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote:
> I think Silk's ability to lead/influence others IS the charisma Typhon
> associates with his face. The embryo that became Silk was a clone of
> Typhon into which he intended to d/l himself on arrival at the Whorl's
> destination, thus preserving his "face."
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Marc Aramini<marcaramini at yahoo.com>  wrote:
>> Silk's description as a slender but fit guy WOULD NOT MAKE HIM SIMILAR IN BUILD TO piaton at all: he is described as somebody who could run all night, whereas, while Piaton is not THE biggest of Typhon's servants, his description of one of palpable extreme strength.  Chenille "looks" stockier and stronger than Silk.  I doubt she would look stronger than Piaton.  These descriptions preclude Silk being any kind of Piaton - he is the stuff of the original monarch, insofar as he might be related at all to him.
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