Pike's ghost
Lee Berman · 29 Nov 2011, 03:01
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From: severiansola at hotmail.com (Lee Berman) Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 22:01:25 -0500 Subject: (urth) Pike's ghost Message-ID: <SNT123-W67AD0CB4BFD6D632EECA6CFB30 at phx.gbl> >Jerry Friedman: >> So this may be saying that someone has taken a mandrake root >and humanized it, creating a homunculus. It might. But mandrake and mandragora are essentially the same word, "drake" being another word for dragon. I guess it might be a difference in reading preference. Is a Wolfe book to be read as a random sequence of colorful episodes which have no connection to each other? I don't see it that way. If a random someone has grown a fetus from a plant root for no apparent reason, I can't see that as a more interesting interpretation than one which explains who created that fetus and for what purpose. As larry says, mandrake and Mandragora both point to Typhon (as homunculus ties to Dr. Talos, but we won't complicate the matter with that, for now). >larry miller: The question is who that someone is. >Typhon is a logical choice. By the way the Axolotl Tanks are revealed >to be the bodies of Tleilaxu females so the vats are wombs. Sorry big >Dune fan so I had to chime in on that. Dune fan here also. I am one of the few who likes the second trilogy better than the first (I consider Dune books 4, 5 and 6 to be more WOlfe-like, actually). Book 6 was a fantastic finale. (it should have ended there; I find the Frank Herbert-post-mortem Dune books to be unreadable even if his son wrote them. Same for Brian Herbert's attempt to continue the D.Void-Jesus Incident series.) Anyway, I also agree with larry. The revelation that the clinical Tleilaxu "vats" are really gigantic, decapitated females is presented as a high point of horror in the series. They not only produce facedancers and clones with these giant uteri, they also engineer them to produce volumes of melange spice by the ton-lot. Ugh.
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