Pike's ghost
James Wynn · 30 Nov 2011, 18:51
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From: crushtv at gmail.com (James Wynn) Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 12:51:35 -0600 Subject: (urth) Pike's ghost In-Reply-To: <4ED67307.7060809 at gmail.com> References: <SNT123-W32DE1E1E63A572375FA831CFB20 at phx.gbl> <4ED3D4DC.3000409 at gmail.com> <4ED3DFF2.8050208 at verizon.net> <4ED3F57B.8050104 at gmail.com> <4ED40796.8030108 at verizon.net> <4ED41277.9040204 at gmail.com> <4ED41B0E.6050507 at gmail.com> <4ED41F91.1020906 at gmail.com> <4ED4276E.8040608 at gmail.com> <4ED4293C.2010906 at gmail.com> <4ED50482.8030804 at gmail.com> <4ED5064C.8000004 at gmail.com> <4ED50A58.7080100 at gmail.com> <4ED50C1A.2060103 at gmail.com> <4ED511BF.8050105 at gmail.com> <4ED51769.7080001 at gmail.com> <4ED51CFB.7010209 at gmail.com> <4ED51E51.4060809 at verizon.net> <4ED52922.5040503 at irit.fr> <4ED52C8C.4030905 at gmail.com> <4ED52E63.9030005 at gmail.com> <448AE28BD9904A3DA642DF4301BED5F4@Rover> <CAJ8=rtjx+fSaMh7aLCxFWvhDKqSf2cOknPNtFvr8Eoat3tU3vg at mail.gmail.com> <4F98B01F-80B3-468C-B393-F2EEC23FD781 at gmail.com> <4ED5605F.10807 at gmail.com> <4ED5737D.7050303 at gmail.com> <4ED65F8F.7000908 at gmail.com> <4ED66607.5060508 at gmail.com> <4ED66B85.4010002 at gmail.com> <4ED67307.7060809 at gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ED67B37.205 at gmail.com> On 11/30/2011 12:16 PM, Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote: > If you think > the archives are full of theories challenged because they have simpler > alternatives, I think perhaps you might reread them. That is in no way how I have described the challenges. However, you have _perfectly_ described the way that an unenlightened** challenger (such as I have been describing) sees his own challenges. HIS alternative is "simpler". Of one's own alternatives are /always/ simpler: Either it does not require a recognition of irony in the text or it does not leave problematic questions hanging or something else. It is the failure to understand that marks one's approached as unenlightened. I'm sure no one creates theories out of a perverse glee for Rube Goldberg constructions. **"Unenlightened" is a term you, Antonio, originally coined. I'm merely adopting it so we can use the same terms.
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