Gummed-Up Works or Got Lives?

António Pedro Marques · 16 Dec 2011, 12:24 · from 2011-December.txt.gz

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Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:24:22 +0000
Subject: (urth) Gummed-Up Works or Got Lives?
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David Stockhoff wrote (16-12-2011 01:42):
> The absence of "mirroring," i.e., a direct and literal correspondence,
> doesn't indicate a lack of a relation. It merely signifies an absence of
> identity. Wolfe's fictions are not fairy tales as we know them. Did anyone
> think they were?

The discussion was about what it looked like on the _surface_. If you only 
find out at the end of the story that a character seems to fit a fairy tale, 
then the fairytaleness isn't really part of the scenery, is it?

As to what the work really is, surface plus the rest, I think all will agree 
it is many things.

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