Gummed-Up Works or Got Lives?

Sergei SOLOVIEV · 16 Dec 2011, 20:05 · from 2011-December.txt.gz

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From: soloviev at irit.fr (Sergei SOLOVIEV)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 21:05:00 +0100
Subject: (urth) Gummed-Up Works or Got Lives?
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Yes, Lee, I think the accusations should be more moderate, if people 
like fencing
with each other - then for the sake of others -

Sergei

Lee Berman wrote:
>   
>> Sergei Soloviev: I should confess also that I am rather scandalized by accusations 
>> addressed to Gerry in neglecting the text - I think the accusers are more guilty in that.
>>     
>
> Is it the accusation or the actual fact of not reading the text which scandalizes you? I'm
> thinking it is the latter as Gerry's frequent accusations of others not reading the text
> have not apparently not scandalized you. In my opinion, we have all read the text, we all
> have varying interpretations and we all have memory lapses. Accusations of not reading the
> text seems an echo of some college professor lecturing his delinquent students. I would be
> happy if such accusations cease.
>  
>   
>> Larry Miller: And Conan being a cheap comic book derivative? Come on!
>>     
>
> Now, Larry :- ). That was a mea culpa on my part. My introduction to Conan was from Marvel 
> Comic Books. They were okay but not my favorite. I had no interest in the Schwarzenegger
> movie. I was pleased to find the online reference which supported Antonio in his perception
> of Conan as the prototype of S & S. I just didn't know!
>  
>   
>> Andrew Mason: West is certainly a good direction. North less so - in the first age
>> material the North is the seat of evil (and it's not Tolkien's fault that wasn't published 
>> first). By the time of LOTR the region has been devastated.
>>     
>
> Good observation, Andrew! Yes, the Silmarillion is quite clear about the history of the North.
> Some have likened Sauron as allegory to the Germans (both WWI and II I guess). Is it possible
> the Silmarillion stuff was inspired in part by the devastation of the Norse barbarians to the 
> British Isles? They did more damage there than the Germans ever did. (okay, 'fess up. Who here
> is a red head ;- )) 		 	   		  
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