Gummed-Up Works or Got Lives?

Gerry Quinn · 18 Dec 2011, 01:04 · from 2011-December.txt.gz

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From: gerry at bindweed.com (Gerry Quinn)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:04:10 -0000
Subject: (urth) Gummed-Up Works or Got Lives?
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From: David Stockhoff 


> On 12/17/2011 7:34 PM, Gerry Quinn wrote:
>
> > > > > > Yes. To what enchantment do you refer?
> > > > > That which kept her preserved and asleep for some 20 years. (You can
> > > > > argue that this did not happen, and I agree. But then there are two
> > > > > narratives here, aren't there? And one of them is informed by 
> > various
> > > > > tales about preserving sleep underground, and women in lakes.)
> > > > That?s a circular argument. ?Dorcas is like Sleeping Beauty. 
> > Therefore
> > > > she was under an enchantment, rather than dead. Therefore she is like
> > > > Sleeping Beauty.?
> > > "Dorcas is like Sleeping Beauty, in that she was apparently under an
> > > enchantment, rather than dead." There---fixed it.
> > At the cost of having to assume Severian?s power is something 
> > considerably different and weaker than what we thought ? i.e. when he 
> > resurrects someone it was because she was set up to be ?resurrected?.

> You must read every other sentence, like a half-blind character out of 
> Borges. How did you miss when I said that's NOT what happened???
Sure, but you seem to be saying that it IS what happened too.  If you?re not, what?s the point in your fix?  What exactly is the status of this ?other narrative? you mention, and what are Severian?s powers like in it?
- Gerry Quinn
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