Urth Net

← back to the conversation

Suzanne Delage again, kind of

David Duffy · 19 Dec 2011, 22:29 · from 2011-December.txt.gz

This is the message as the crawl holds it, before anything here touched it. What the conversation shows has been through ingest: transfer encodings decoded, attachments dropped, quote markers repaired, and the archiver’s ? resolved into quotation marks and dashes. Those repairs are judgements and some of them are wrong, which is what this page is for. Email addresses are obscured here as they are everywhere else on the site, so it is before our repairs rather than byte for byte.

From: David.Duffy at qimr.edu.au (David Duffy)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 08:29:18 +1000 (EST)
Subject: (urth) Suzanne Delage again, kind of
In-Reply-To: <2C05608CA4454E0486837C942C51E3B5@Rover>
References: <SNT123-W50A9FF8908A2C4EB5FA2CACFA30 at phx.gbl><37C4859FAD55407DBA8779047C8C609B@Rover><4EEAA211.7070705 at verizon.net><6A0F475423584142B0FA666A0E93F682@Rover><4EEAB8C6.100 at verizon.net><5054BA56E99A4B28A66D90C447EEEE44@Rover><4EED2143.9010706 at verizon.net><B313F102F2A041C7A3735F37FC4B34E4@Rover><4EED3115.20902 at verizon.net><D443B595307C4CB79D5809B6C766449C@Rover><4EED383D.2070000 at verizon.net><9DC7581DE8B242049D6A8A31A25F9185@Rover><4EED46F9.8080601 at verizon.net><8101814B5E9B4CB18A26CADF6D32487E@Rover><4EED55BC.4040200 at verizon.net><BFDA7381D0234F6EB6507D236F84DCCA@Rover><4EEE104B.3070305 at verizon.net><D39CC8F5F7714353A0ED8BD13DAAA4CA@Rover><4EEE5EFC.2020001 at verizon.net><479CCB8D04174E449696347D24B6308F@Rover><Pine.LNX.4.64.1112191015350.17789 at orpheus.qimr.edu.au>
	<2C05608CA4454E0486837C942C51E3B5@Rover>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1112200803480.11712 at orpheus.qimr.edu.au>

On Mon, 19 Dec 2011, Gerry Quinn wrote:

>
>
> From: David Duffy
>
>> Adam Robert's _Land of the Headless_ (2007) has his protagonist fall
>> heavily for _Siuzan Delage_.  Some have thought it a nod to Proust, but
>> the plot I think is more a riff on Wolfe (among other things).

> Roberts has reviewed Wolfe extensively. I think it's a safe bet that 
> he *knows* Wolfe's _Suzanne Delage_
...
>  That said, I don't think it is 
> likely to be any sort of direct assault either, simply because a 
> character who appears offstage in a short story isn't much of a jumping 
> ground for any kind of assault.  I wouldn't be surprised, though, if 
> there is some implication that the idealisation of women is a form of 
> oppression.  Pure speculation, though, as I haven't read it.

No. The protagonist is an apparently sincere follower of a future 
syncretic monotheistic ("Biblqur'an") religion in a Islamic style culture 
with some segregation of the sexes.  Suizan is a "zealot" who assists 
released criminals, and spends time unchaperoned with such low-life as the 
narrator.

> [I've read _On_ and _Salt_ by Roberts.  _On_ was okay but a bit too 
> consciously postmodern and clever.  I liked _Salt_ a lot, though.] - 
> Gerry Quinn

I have bounced off a couple of his books, but generally enjoy his writing 
(his blog has some snot-producingly funny reviews eg from his push to read 
the _Wheel of Time_ straight through).

Cheers, David Duffy.

An unofficial mirror of a public mailing list · about & removal requests · download the archive · before the list · original archive at urth.net