Agia's Weapons

Daniel Petersen · 20 Dec 2011, 21:13 · from 2011-December.txt.gz

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From: danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com (Daniel Petersen)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2011 21:13:07 +0000
Subject: (urth) Agia's Weapons
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Wow, wow, wow.  I can't tell you all how pleased I am that my
pagan-gods-fulfilled-in-Christ comment didn't bring down a firestorm.
 Quite the reverse!  It seems all who've commented agree Wolfe does this -
Gerry wants to then take it in a certain direction, with which the
Catholics (and my lily white Protestant butt) disagree.  And that's fine.

I would hasten to clarify:  though Wolfe takes this, to me, generous and
wise approach that doesn't mean he's not up for some 'ass-kicking for
Jesus' sake' (as his fellow Catholic novelist Walker Percy said of his own
fiction).  That is, just as much as he weaves this fulfilment motif into
his fiction, he also weaves an expos? of the 'evils of religion' (as the
late Christopher Hitchens might have said) into his works as well.  I.e. I
*do* think he knows that people are often deluded, deceived, and imprisoned
by their false religious beliefs, even if there is *some* important truth
to aspects of their worldviews.  (I don't think his Catholicism escapes
this critique either - if we distinguish between 'eternal truths' and more
transitory teachings and practices of the Church, of course, as others have
pointed out.)

-DOJP

On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Dan'l Danehy-Oakes <danldo at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ah, a subtilty that passed me by, and you were of course quite correct.
>
> 2011/12/20 Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com>:
> > There was a time I know how to write, but it is long past.
> > One point though:
> >
> > Dan'l Danehy-Oakes wrote (20-12-2011 17:30):
> >
> >> Ant?nio Pedro Marques wrote:
> >>>
> >>> What's guaranteed is that the Church is _right_ in teaching what it
> >>> teaches.
> >>> There's a difference.
> >>
> >>
> >> Actually, there's a subtle difference. The Magisterium doesn't claim
> >> that everything it teaches is right; it claims that, in matters of
> >> faith and morals, it will not be _wrong_. There is a gap between
> >> "right" and "not wrong" which allows for mysteries greater than human
> >> words can teach.
> >
> >
> > Of course. But that's not the point I was making. I wasn't saying
> everything
> > the Magisterium teaches is right, but rather that the Magisterium was
> right
> > in teaching it. This allows a whole lot more of leeway...
> >
> >
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