S&S vs. SF in BotNS
Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 21 Dec 2011, 21:25
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From: danldo at gmail.com (Dan'l Danehy-Oakes) Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 13:25:38 -0800 Subject: (urth) S&S vs. SF in BotNS In-Reply-To: <8A698AD2D397431780A7ED5D233F0E11@Rover> References: <CAGB0RZ5cqMvUujjGW+5x2qCrKc8BaEMHyggrNLCsVEVNbgp2xA at mail.gmail.com> <CAGB0RZ6Z_0wi+RbqNSjuhBj_iq=v6oRm2KBj_YcXWWz4GEzKLw at mail.gmail.com> <1324408368.30211.YahooMailNeo at web114708.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <E7E5D56ABC984891B98B625390C9A857@Rover> <CAJ8=rtjzJvYX-Mzmu1My36od0MhZU_Qu3=B2d+UY1viHOtmG-g at mail.gmail.com> <4EF20FFA.2000107 at clueland.com> <CAJ8=rth-gNxxEynVxbNf-Ov2EMSkb2g3pf8WsDApn9VkGpHRcQ at mail.gmail.com> <2CD619ACDA004C9A9A4F9455117E2958@Rover> <CAJ8=rthiBxxCYTztvYXch_mdLm=AjG7J53yLYXSHFfUkzrNWBQ at mail.gmail.com> <D01166F0C0E646FA96B79B9FE6891187@Rover> <CAJ8=rtjZbhVSZBk+QKsg_kS4a7bE4VPUL24QaR-kiw8vwsxW6A at mail.gmail.com> <8A698AD2D397431780A7ED5D233F0E11@Rover> Message-ID: <CAJ8=rthiQWH13sLYTegf4LmNk7_j=7VDt83=kJi7+L8cuPBx7Q at mail.gmail.com> Gerry Quinn wrote: >> Because Wolfe is not such a fool as to offer a scientific (or >> psientific -- which can also mean "pseudo-scientific") explanation for >> the soul. > > What powers of Mucor are you saying are magic? All of them. > The Whorl gods? possession > of people is explicitly glossed as technology rather than magic, Correct. > and that surely also involves the soul. Not so fast. We get nothing from the point of view of a possessed person, except at a double remove (what is told to Silk, as re-related from him to the authors of the Book of Silk). We really don't know whether the possessed person is conscious in any way of being/having been possessed -- indeed, when a possessor leaves the possessee, Wolfe seems to deliberately skim around the question of what it was like for the possessee. > Do chems have souls? They seem to! > One imagines so, and Mucor doesn?t mistake Quetzal for one.? Yet > their soul presumably starts off as a computer program. No. A chem's _mind_ starts as a program. The mind is not the soul. -- Dan'l Danehy-Oakes
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