S&S vs. SF in BotNS
David Stockhoff · 23 Dec 2011, 14:22
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 09:22:04 -0500 Subject: (urth) S&S vs. SF in BotNS In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W98B0702D909373A9BF56ACFAB0 at phx.gbl> References: <SNT123-W98B0702D909373A9BF56ACFAB0 at phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4EF48E8C.2000102 at verizon.net> On 12/23/2011 9:10 AM, Lee Berman wrote: >> Jeff Wilson: You're overlooking reproducible results. Preindustrial crop hexings are >> >not reproducible by witches, while electrons are tamed well enough that we can reproduce >> >Zeus-strength lightning as necessary and prevent it from striking houses when it occurs naturally. > > I don't overlook or discount reproducible results. They are a human thing to want. But ancient > religions were based on it also. Do something to anger Zeus and within a few months you'll get > a thunderstorm. You might have to wait a few years after angering a witch but you'll eventually > get your crop failure also. Nothing is more reproducible than witchcraft or God. Look at all the damage homosexuals have done to the tornado/hurricane belt by angering him. In the real world, I don;t find myself making this point often. But in fiction, the necessary suspension of disbelief does a lot of work to put science and "magic" on an equal footing. If the proper formulas are followed, as in my example regarding hyperdrives, then the appropriate authority is invoked and the narrative may proceed.
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