The Claw
Jane Delawney · 31 Dec 2011, 01:35
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From: jane_delawney at sky.com (Jane Delawney) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 01:35:33 +0000 Subject: (urth) The Claw In-Reply-To: <SNT123-W1AB1C199B6435C93B1F3FCFAB0 at phx.gbl> References: <SNT123-W1AB1C199B6435C93B1F3FCFAB0 at phx.gbl> Message-ID: <4EFE66E5.7050204 at sky.com> On 23/12/11 14:46, Lee Berman wrote: >>> Jeff Wilson: Except that it only seems to work when the White Fountain is above the >>> horizion. >> Brian: Isn't there some sighting of the white fountain during the Apu-Punchau >> scene? If Severian's blood in both his body and the claw creates a >> temporal anomaly that allows his powers, then perhaps the massive anomaly >> created when he and Apu-Punchau touch is somehow part of the >> whole...uh..."white fountain process". > > Well, Severian does see the White Fountain as he breaks out of Apu Punchau's tomb. > Previous to that, Barbatus twice suggests to Severian that he will have access to > the White Fountain power only when its light first reaches Urth. I assume that to > mean the whole Urth, else his power would only work during a certain time of day. > The White Fountain/Claw's power is never fully reliable but I don't get the sense > the problem is related to Urth's turning. Personally I've never been convinced by the 'powers only available after the White Fountain light reaches Urth / is above the horizon' theory (even though this is clearly posited in the text and appears for sure to be what [Wolfe tells us that] Severian believes) just because Sev / Apu Punchau performs miracles of healing (and resurrection? I forget. I don't have UOTNS in front of me now) from the time he arrives in the primitive village; it's part of why the villagers come to follow him in the first place. Admitted that the most up-front 'miracle' of all, the failure of the sunrise, is caused by the Yesodis not by Severian; but Sev does elsewhere state explicitly that he performed healings and other works early in his stay in that era, and indeed I seem to remember he is actually puzzled by his ability to do this in the pre-White-Fountain era! Perhaps the 'miraculous' powers are more part of Severian himself than even Severian realises. jd
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