The Wizard

Dan'l Danehy-Oakes · 06 Mar 2012, 20:34 · from 2012-March.txt.gz

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From: danldo at gmail.com (Dan'l Danehy-Oakes)
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 12:34:17 -0800
Subject: (urth) The Wizard
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Lee Berman wrote:

> Well, I tend to agree. I think "The Increate" mentioned in the Sun Series
> does represent the one true God. However I think "The Pancreator" and
> "The Demiurge" represent something different.

Agreed; these are standard Gnostic terms.


> My view is that with Urth, Wolfe created a world where Christ never
> appeared, where all the ancient gods and horrors remained in control.

An interesting idea, and I like it. It has great explanatory power.


> That sounds good but it just isn't what I am seeing in the Sun Series. BotNS
> ends with the worship of a pantheon of gods based on normal people from
> the past, with demonic fish women still lurking around. ?And Short Sun ends
> with swarms of inhumi threatening the future of humanity. I am left with the
> feeling they are in need of something more to attain the higher level of
> spirituality that we (Christians) have here on earth.

Agreed. Yet...

>
>>He graciously invites readers to hear the Outsider and be part of Silk's
>>revolution, exodus, and new frontier.
>
> I am confused. Are you saying The Outsider is our Christian God and Silk is
> the second (or tenth or whatever) coming of Jesus? If not, we might be in
> agreement.

I don't speak for anyone else, but I do believe that the Outsider is
"our Christian God." But Silk is _NOT_ the nth coming of Jesus, nor is
he in any way analogous to Jesus; he is, as Wolfe put it, "a good man
in a bad religion." (H'mmm. Might be a good name for a bad band in
there.) When Silk is "enlightened," he becomes, not a Messiah, but a
prophet -- he is more analogous to Moses than to Jesus.

I realize that there is no way to convince you that the Outsider is
the Christian God, but I believe that the Increate is at work
throughout the Solar cycle, that, as the Bible says, He wills that all
be saved and that He would not abandon an entire Creation to perdition
-- and I believe that Wolfe would believe this also. Thus, he sets up
the interesting thought-experiment you posit, but then he also asks,
"How would God react to this...?"

-- 
Dan'l Danehy-Oakes

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