The Wizard
Lee Berman · 07 Mar 2012, 18:12
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From: severiansola at hotmail.com (Lee Berman) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2012 13:12:03 -0500 Subject: (urth) The Wizard Message-ID: <SNT123-W561DC7C70AEB9E060043DECF560 at phx.gbl> >Daniel Petersen: I can't imagine a more jaundiced, blinkered, selective >reading of the Old Testament and the doctrine of God that emerges from it >(if you've really read 'Genesis to Malachi' at all). I'm not at all >trying to assault or insult you, Lee. No offense taken, Daniel. I am more concerned that I have offended your beliefs, which I did not intend to do. Still, you might correctly infer from my name that I was raised in the jewish faith and have read the Old Testament both in English and Hebrew. I am confortable with my understanding of its meaning and original intent. As Christians are most focused on the gospels of the NT, so jews are focused on the Pentateuch. I think you would have to be selective and blinkered to read it and NOT see the war, genocide and paganistic trappings found among the ancient Hebrews and their God. Now if you are suggesting that God is more mellow and peaceful in the later prophet books than He is in Genesis and Exodus I would agree. This supports my thesis that this is an evolving God. You know, many Christians today are critical of Muslims and Sharia law. But from polygamy to honor killings to homosexual and slut stonings to holy wars, all that is criticized of Islam can be found in the Old Testament. Things that are not found in the New Testament, as far as I know. But I am willing to learn differently and be corrected if I am wrong. Perhaps those more familiar with the NT find it to be just as brutal, with a God as warlike and vengeful as God is in the Pentateuch. I know some feel that AIDS is simply a modern way for God to punish gays and the Tsunami was a way to punish non-Christian heathens in Indonesia and Thailand etc. If it is your view that God doles out rewards and punishments for devotion and disobedience as much now as He did in Genesis I respect your position and will not debate it.
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