The Wizard
Antonin Scriabin · 08 Mar 2012, 20:15
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From: kierkegaurdian at gmail.com (Antonin Scriabin) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 15:15:48 -0500 Subject: (urth) The Wizard In-Reply-To: <CAGB0RZ5tgJHe8b-GyQ6Ympn0-p-WS3tYmi6jA5T95Z8Ktf3DQQ at mail.gmail.com> References: <SNT123-W39083F005BF6D6A83513B5CF570 at phx.gbl> <CAGB0RZ5XbErZuHvf=m3y_FbBqbTiQTgsibTST92t5Lw1rD79hg at mail.gmail.com> <4F58EF64.7030008 at gmail.com> <CAGB0RZ5tgJHe8b-GyQ6Ympn0-p-WS3tYmi6jA5T95Z8Ktf3DQQ at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <CAM0v-i5KcARf6E3kWaFUEnmryOj+yTOzdb4YaP8VNPCerY47bA at mail.gmail.com> Haha, a valiant attempt, Daniel. [?] Can anyone link to an interview(s) in which Wolfe talks about his faith in relation to his writing? I have read a fair number of his interviews but they were mostly focused on his philosophies of writing, etc. Also, if I can bring it back to *The Wizard*for a minute, I would just point out that the Most High God seems quite absent from the lower worlds and that "he" struck me as a remarkably deist being, especially considering how active the "gods" of other realms interact with the worlds below them. It seems that it is easy to go a world "up" or "down", but going farther than that is rarer (perhaps a "two-world jump" is even impossible), so perhaps the Most High God's influence is mainly in the world second from the top. Can anyone refresh my memory of where Parka is from? Was she an entity of Elysion, or Kleos? On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Daniel Petersen < danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com> wrote: > Hey, I thought you didn't want to discuss this! :) > > The *larger* summary of the doctrine of God from the entire OT could not > possibly be accurately represented by a summary of the (alleged) doctrine > of God one garners merely from the orders to exterminate the Canaanites. > Wolfe, in Long Sun for example, is surely drawing on a doctrine of a > merciful, enlightening, liberating God culled partly from themes in Genesis > and Exodus in terms of God's grace toward Abraham 'lost' in idolatry and > then the Israelites in slavery. Sure, Wolfe needs the NT development of > the doctrine of God in addition - but humanly understandable divine > revelation and the provision of a leader to lead an oppressed people out of > idolatry and slavery are already powerfully embodied in the Torah. Thus, > the God in the fiction of Gene Wolfe echoes the God who is progressively > revealed from Old into New Testaments (on the orthodox Christian > understanding.) That's my thesis. Seeing the God of the OT merely as a > genocidal tryant does violence to the theology found in Wolfe's fiction, I > think. Maybe Wolfe's wrong in his understanding. I, at least, do not > think he is. (Trying to keep us *slightly* on topic here, heh.) > > -DOJP > > > 2012/3/8 Ant?nio Pedro Marques <entonio at gmail.com> > >> Daniel Petersen wrote (08-03-2012 16:30): >> >>> Your summary of the OT God as genocidal and >>> whatnot just is unsophisticated in its reading of the library of texts >>> (...) >>> >> >> The key word is *summary*. Otherwise there's just no way to go around all >> the clear, insistent and absolute *orders* to fully exterminate the >> Canaanites. >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Urth Mailing List >> To post, write urth at urth.net >> Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20120308/4ce9b5d8/attachment.htm> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/gif Size: 96 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20120308/4ce9b5d8/attachment.gif>
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