The Wizard
António Pedro Marques · 12 Mar 2012, 02:39
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From: entonio at gmail.com (=?utf-8?Q?Ant=C3=B3nio_Pedro_Marques?=) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 02:39:22 +0000 Subject: (urth) The Wizard In-Reply-To: <CAM0v-i4gC5-o2TEY4TDLNH0HZzt-xDQoQ+ds1YNCdtUNPaMe7A at mail.gmail.com> References: <SNT123-W457935D3BDC7D5A9B64451CF510 at phx.gbl> <CAM0v-i5vLrLXpaued2LtKwXMgVMX-GJLwkzH-8yWtE7D3sHMzg at mail.gmail.com> <CAGB0RZ4D6q0Rtgm7S4vDk16sZTHx9txU=BjyPCm1Xqy4VyWRsQ at mail.gmail.com> <CAM0v-i4gC5-o2TEY4TDLNH0HZzt-xDQoQ+ds1YNCdtUNPaMe7A at mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <B54F592F-F866-47F3-9D19-395623B23291 at gmail.com> No dia 06/03/2012, ?s 14:46, Antonin Scriabin <kierkegaurdian at gmail.com> escreveu: > "But it's not all subjective, right?" > > A case can be made that it is all subjective, because we can never know the author's motives, but that seems like a petty objection (that, of course, leads to more petty objections for which we can thank postmodernism). <349.gif> I just think talking about "primary" vs. "other" and "lesser" allusions is just an odd way to think about a work of fiction; especially when people use phrases like "an allusion to" as code for "this part of the text means". It is one thing to trace allusions, and another to draw grandiose conclusions about Christ having been in one universe or another, etc. I think it reads a bit too much into the books, and that if we didn't already know going in that Wolfe was a Catholic, we wouldn't be making these conclusion. It is only because we know he is a devout Catholic that we put more emphasis on the Christian allusions than the pagan ones. And I highly doubt the knowledge that Wolfe is Catholic is a key part of the "literary analysis toolkit" he wants us to bring to his works. As I've stated boringly to tears, it's the knowledge that Wolfe is a catholic that makes me almost certain that either Briah's Jesus wasn't the Son of God or Briah's Humanity is fundamentally worse than us. I can't envision a world that has already been visited by Christ degenerating into Urth. Iow, it's the knowledge that Wolfe is a catholic that makes me believe the Christian trappings of Briah are more form than substance. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20120312/f86e6fd1/attachment.htm>
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