Lupiverse(s)
Lee Berman · 12 Mar 2012, 13:52
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From: severiansola at hotmail.com (Lee Berman) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:52:04 -0400 Subject: (urth) Lupiverse(s) Message-ID: <SNT123-W318909D2C96B7E73820A79CF5B0 at phx.gbl> >Craig Brewer> So my real question here is how sure we are >that Urth isn't just Earth. I don't think we can be. And I agree that the interview, by itself, could be dismissed as retrofitting. Much as we'd hate to think of Wolfe doing that, he is human. Here is what sways me to believe Briah was intended as a past universe from the start. On first reading most readers will assume that "Urth" is just a funny spelling of earth. But with further readings and research you come to learn that Urth is a spelling for one of the three Norns, the one who embodies the Past. This could be a coincidence until you become aware of how learned and immersed in mythology Gene Wolfe is. It is unlikely to be an accident. Furthermore, the other two Norns, Skuld and Verthandi are also referenced. This seems to me a clear example of Wolfe speaking in code to those who are (or become) familiar with the minutiae of Norse mythology. Urth is not the future. It is not the present. It is the past. This allows Urth and Briah to be futuristic but still be Christ- absent. And it allows there to be a Flood without having God break his Covenant. These two components seem necessary for what Wolfe was trying to accomplish with this work.
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