Severian as Marcus Aurelius
Alex David Groce · 03 Nov 1999, 15:08
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From: Alex David Groce <Alex_Groce at gs246.sp.cs.cmu.edu> Subject: Re: (urth) Re: Severian as Marcus Aurelius Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 15:08:36 Message-ID: <urth-v0028-0367 at digest.urth.net> X-Urthmirror-Source: http://www.urth.net/urth/archives/v0028/0367.shtml MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable >Both Claudius and Severian backed into the throne, and both are lame. But I >think Claudius is presented as something of a bumbling fool (though of >course he often plays the fool as well), and this is hard to say of >Severian. And Sev and Marcus Aurelius both lead armies into battle, >something Claudius could never do. Actually, in CLAUDIUS THE GOD, he does just that--using (IIRC, it's been a good while since I read it) elephants in the battle to frighten the Briti= sh. Claudius is actually (in Graves' version) a decent military planner, and the battle description and especially the elephants are (I think) a clear influ= ence on the "look and feel" of the battles in CITADEL. In general, from the=20 prophecy of the Sybil at Cumae, etc., Severian is quite explicitly patterned on Claudius. In fact the quickest way to sum up what happens to Severian i= s: take the events that happen to Caludius, mix in the Gospel narratives, and then embed it all in a sword-and-sorcery journey tale. >Disclaimer: I am mainly familiar with _I, Claudius_ through television, not >the book. The books are quite entertaining, and Claudius is much less of a fool than = in the television series (or, quite probably, history). And they are definite= ly a big influence on NEW SUN--for example, I think Valeria's name is Valeria=20 because Claudius' wife was Valeria Messalina. "And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:32 -- Alex David Groce (agroce+ at cs.cmu.edu) Ph.D. Student, Carnegie Mellon University - Computer Science Department 8112 Wean Hall (412)-268-3066 http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~agroce *More Wolfe info & archive of this list at http://www.urth.net/urth/
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