Lupiverse(es)

Craig Brewer · 15 Mar 2012, 01:01 · from 2012-March.txt.gz

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From: cnbrewer at yahoo.com (Craig Brewer)
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:01:12 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: (urth) Lupiverse(es)
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My bad, too. I often use "Hieros" as shorthand for all Yesodis/Hiero-etceteras. And I think I did it earlier today.



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 From: James Wynn <crushtv at gmail.com>
To: The Urth Mailing List <urth at lists.urth.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 6:31 PM
Subject: Re: (urth) Lupiverse(es)
 

> On 3/14/2012 4:11 PM, James Wynn wrote:
>> Look, the justification for Ushas is simple:
>> Humanity's descendants cruelly (tortuously) transformed animals into the
>> Heiros. And now the Heiros are returning the favor to ensure humanity
>> --in every universe possible-- will progress to a form in which they
>> will torture the Hieros into existence.
>
> On 3/14/2012 6:16 PM, Jeff Wilson wrote:
> Argh again!
>

Yes, Heiros is a bad term in this instance, since we're differentiating 
the human creators from their creation.

But if the Yesodis only want to ascend with the Heiros humans, why do 
they repeat the process again and again?
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