Lupiverse(es)
David Stockhoff · 16 Mar 2012, 01:26
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From: dstockhoff at verizon.net (David Stockhoff) Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 21:26:27 -0400 Subject: (urth) Lupiverse(es) In-Reply-To: <1331855173.81013.YahooMailNeo at web121002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <SNT123-W51B170E1E982B63882B931CF590 at phx.gbl> <1331737802.36157.YahooMailNeo at web121001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <4F60CA8B.8060407 at gmail.com> <1331744686.23213.YahooMailNeo at web121005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <CAGB0RZ4OB_A_tagJfoNZ4vid4iF+Mu3QL8cjKq3di3xDFA1L1g at mail.gmail.com> <BD0E4F6B-40FC-4081-B258-E011D29B1C15 at gmail.com> <CAGB0RZ7E8EE3e_kUjTQK2Q-5QiZkQRKzAFoq2+-22tuZMFbCOQ at mail.gmail.com> <CAJ8=rthWZ-3w2s-7XT-bkuDGLBSOp=nyseyMqghEmY3GfbBKQw at mail.gmail.com> <1331855173.81013.YahooMailNeo at web121002.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4F6296C3.80107 at verizon.net> On 3/15/2012 7:46 PM, Craig Brewer wrote: > Yep. I'm not Catholic, but it doesn't really matter. I don't like > Wolfe because I *believe* him or have to share his worldview. I'm not > looking to have myself confirmed in someone else's fiction. > > But those who read him with a real eye for a kind of esoteric > knowledge or even for certain gnostic insights might. But those > readings also often overlook the story in favor of the background. I wonder if there isn't a very good reason for the apparent fact that Urth inspires so much yearning for just that "esoteric knowledge" and insight in its interpreters. Wolfe is normally quite terse and oblique, but it's not The Ziggurat that keeps coming up again and again in this forum. I think few of us here have not felt the pull of that yearning to know another secret. Severian's narrative shows any number of gnostic trappings. The culture that is its setting, beginning with the mysteries of the guild where he was raised, clearly values secrets over the sharing of knowledge. He repeatedly hides and reveals, hides and reveals in his own narration. Even when information is released, it is often in parable or garbled form. Consistently, Wolfe wraps tiny seeds of truth in layers of interpretation and interpolation. The writing of TUOTNS proves that as much was suggested as was revealed by releasing further information few of us could have guessed---though much of it presumably was created after BOTNS was finished, to make a fully-fleshed story out of this information. Several purposes have been proposed for these multilevel tendencies, and most seem valid. For example, Wolfe plainly has theories about knowledge and history as well as of the divine and of literature itself, and therefore he plays with myth as a mode of creation as well as of communication, encryption, and enlightenment. And he lays it on pretty thick. Regardless of intent, the form of the story fits its apparent function of pointing to bigger things offstage. But is that "yearning" more than just an accumulation of narrative effects effects and coincidences? Mystery is at the very heart of the story. Severian himself is a question, and he is a Seeker for Truth. Little of what we know about his story is known; much of what we think we know, we have guessed, and much of what we are told is suspect. The very universe he dwells in becomes matter for speculation /within the text/, and what is the big question that keeps coming up again and again? Why, the very one raised just a few days ago: is there a Christ in it? If so, who and where? I used to think this suggestive silence was an attempt to hide or dress up the kernel of Severian's story as Christ figure, as well as any deeper layers. But the overall effect of it seems to go beyond that, to awaken exactly this yearning for hidden knowledge---the suspicion that there is more to the story than meets the eye, more to be revealed. Now we know there WAS more information, were the first four books a /conscious /exercise in esotericism? Is this how Wolfe came to overdo it so much he had to write a fifth book to explain them---not just because his puzzles were too obscure, but because the whole puzzle aspect was planned top-down? If so, then to go further: Was it a conscious attempt at encapsulating the human desire for divine knowledge? Not just who-are-we, where-do-we-come-from, where-are-we-going, but also what-is-our-relation-to-the-infinite? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20120315/6d740e25/attachment.htm>
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