Lupiverse(es)
Jeff Wilson · 16 Mar 2012, 20:49
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From: jwilson at clueland.com (Jeff Wilson) Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 15:49:14 -0500 Subject: (urth) Lupiverse(es) In-Reply-To: <4F6231F1.80400 at verizon.net> References: <SNT123-W46490130117AB70C8647B5CF5E0 at phx.gbl> <4F622767.9050906 at gmail.com> <4F6231F1.80400 at verizon.net> Message-ID: <4F63A74A.5050208 at clueland.com> On 3/15/2012 1:16 PM, David Stockhoff wrote: > On 3/15/2012 1:31 PM, James Wynn wrote: >> On 3/15/2012 7:56 AM, Lee Berman wrote: >>> But, heresy aside, can such views be considered as leaning toward >>> gnostic? >> >> I don't think so. Not in themselves. >> >> Wolfe's off-hand proposition that the gods were "real" in some way but >> not deserving of worship would only be directly tied to conventional >> gnosticism if he double-down and stated that the gods were also the >> direct creators of the universe or the planet. Many Greek philosophers >> opined that their gods had been kings around whom cults had formed. >> Paul thought they were demons or fallen angels who paid no attention >> to the sacrifices offered to their images. Lewis seems to have toyed >> with the idea that they were created powerful beings who, again, were >> unworthy of worship. Wolfe's comment demonstrates that he is a >> mythopoetist--that he believes the myths carry significant truths >> --spiritual truths-- just as electronic protocols carry data. >> >> For more understanding of what he believes about mythology, study >> Green's conversation with his psychiatrist in There Are Doors. > > Interestingly, it has been proposed here that the Yesodis may have > created their own whatever-it-is they live in or on. Does that count as > world-creation? Their machine planet certainly fits the "engine room of creation" description. -- Jeff Wilson - jwilson at clueland.com Computational Intelligence Laboratory - Texas A&M Texarkana < http://www.tamut.edu/CIL >
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