teleological principals as a dualistic paradigm
Daniel Petersen · 31 Mar 2012, 22:33
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From: danielottojackpetersen at gmail.com (Daniel Petersen) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:33:59 +0100 Subject: (urth) teleological principals as a dualistic paradigm In-Reply-To: <1333221900.55487.YahooMailClassic at web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1333221900.55487.YahooMailClassic at web161806.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <CAGB0RZ5NkGDq+QwPu-5_P3ZXso0r_n1Mgjwx=F=T3H48XkcSOw at mail.gmail.com> Extremely interesting, Marc. I just want to know what you mean more precisely by two terms: 'spiritualist' and 'dualism'. The former conjurs in my mind the believer in contact with the dead through mediums, but I see in the dictionary it can also indicate more widely someone who simply believes in a spiritual reality. You mean it in this latter sense? If so, I assume that's also what you mean by dualism - what philosophers refer to as mind-body dualism: belief, essentially, in an immaterial spirit and/or soul (a belief the majority of whom seem to not accept, since, to their reductionistic and materialistic view, it is 'non-scientific' as you say). I would suggest that such 'mystery' is indeed in tension with 'rationality' in Wolfe, but that they are also in 'play', sometimes fruitfully, creating a larger world, making a bigger better sense of things (to Wolfe's way of thinking) even if also being paradoxical - a view perhaps both Thomistic as well as Chestertonian. -DOJP On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Marc Aramini <marcaramini at yahoo.com> wrote: > As I was finishing up the commentary for the rather straightforward "The > Largest Luger", I just wanted to mention exactly where I think Wright > oversimplified in "Attending Daedalus". > > Wolfe is that rarest of individuals as a creator: educated as an engineer > who served in the military, yet likes to read mysteries, fantasies, and > literary classics; he is also a spiritualist. > > His mysteries are so "detail" oriented that they are clear reflections of > his engineering background - how is this constructed? What material is it > constructed of? How would that work? What physical properties would it > have under these conditions? Thus the study of cause and effect and the > grounding in simple physics is overwhelming in these early stories, and > Wright has picked up on this teleological design scheme in New Sun. > > Yet beyond elided cause and effect, there is the true dualism and the idea > of free will that Wolfe sometimes stresses - that there is a separate and > equally valid "reality" - possibly one free from the senses and our > interaction with the physical world. Wright, I feel, ignores the equally > strong strain of dualism and its implications in Wolfe's most complex > creations. > > I think this is what makes interpreting Wolfe so very very hard at times: > there is the seemingly opposite pull of a non-scientific dualism but also > the insanely ordered feeling of cause and effect, sometimes reversed, > inexplicable, or hiding underneath the perceptions of our narrators, that > seem to be pulling in somewhat opposite directions - yet in Wolfe, they > might sometimes point the same way eventually. > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.urth.net/pipermail/urth-urth.net/attachments/20120331/5d9ec883/attachment.htm>
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