Fringe
Ryan Dunn · 06 Apr 2012, 18:49
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From: ryan at liftingfaces.com (Ryan Dunn) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 13:49:08 -0500 Subject: (urth) Fringe In-Reply-To: <4F7F3884.2030007 at verizon.net> References: <SNT123-W601AB0A5EF8CD3CC4A0515CF300 at phx.gbl> <CAGUyZEert2QOMA0MOqg7HouT7tbi7LCHjDynCqJj2p69OO0LJQ at mail.gmail.com> <4F7F3884.2030007 at verizon.net> Message-ID: <796A5AD5-9B73-4EFD-B952-3468B67029E2 at liftingfaces.com> Man, what a lively LOST debate we have going on here. I wonder if Gene has watched the show. Is it not possible, however, that the purgatory thing still has legs and that Jack was their shepherd to the after life? I guess I don't like the myopic nature of It Was All a Dream, and want the window to have a wider opening than that. The Others, Dharma, Black Rock, Jacob, etc. lose a lot of weight when they simply become figments of a dying man's imagination. Unless that dying man is some seasoned mystery novelist, I guess. ...ryan On Apr 6, 2012, at 1:40 PM, David Stockhoff <dstockhoff at verizon.net> wrote: > On 4/6/2012 1:43 PM, Matthew Knight wrote: >> On Fri, Apr 6, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Lee Berman <severiansola at hotmail.com <mailto:severiansola at hotmail.com>> wrote: >> >> >> >> I should mention that my suspicion that Jacob and his brother are >> meant to symbolize >> the eternal fraternal conflict between Judaism and Islam is >> bolstered by the >> significant amount of time the cast spends in that Church Of All >> Faiths in the finale. >> There isn't much else in the 6 year history of the show which >> would explain that >> religious emphasis. >> >> >> Au contraire--religious themes popped up time and time again: the Virigin Mary statues, Charlie's altar-boy past, Eko as fake priest, Desmond in the monastery, Jacob/Locke as martyrs, not to mention the constant faith/science debate between Locke and Jack and the broader issues of fate and destiny. >> >> Fraternal conflicts, yes; perhaps a reference to Judaism and Islam, although I saw a lot more Christian imagery overall (Sayid's Muslim heritage did not play a major role). If we wanted to be slavishly literal, of course, the fraternal religious split would actually be one generation earlier, between Isaac and Ishmael rather than Jacob and Esau. >> >> Somewhat embarrassing that I'm popping out of lurkerdom to discuss Lost rather than Wolfe, but that's probably a sign of my true intellectual acuity. > > heh! > > Yeah, there were so many heavy-handed references my wife and I practically made a drinking game out of characters saying "take a leap of faith." Then again, we also played a game of writing the dialogue moments before it was actually spoken. We were never wrong. > > Good times ... > _______________________________________________ > Urth Mailing List > To post, write urth at urth.net > Subscription/information: http://www.urth.net
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